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The Batlord 03-23-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1935307)
If I'm describing them as a team, I use the singular.

Pretty sure this is a lie. No one does that. Probably because it's a pointless grammar rule that should be flexible.

Trollheart 03-23-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1935307)
If I'm describing them as a team, I use the singular.

Yeah. I pretty much always do the opposite. And it's not just me. I see it on Match of the Day: "Spurs weren't great on the defence today, were they?" (Not Spurs wasn't great...") or "That player is really something. He's too good for Middlesboro. They'll struggle to keep him there." Not "It will struggle" etc. Maybe it's wrong; I'm not saying it isn't. But it's one of those things that has just happened and been accepted for so long now. You go to see Zu in concert. Do you say "It played a great set" or "They played a great set"? Just sounds wrong, the former...
(shrug)

The Batlord 03-23-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1935309)
Yeah. I pretty much always do the opposite. And it's not just me. I see it on Match of the Day: "Spurs weren't great on the defence today, were they?" (Not Spurs wasn't great...") or "That player is really something. He's too good for Middlesboro. They'll struggle to keep him there." Not "It will struggle" etc. Maybe it's wrong; I'm not saying it isn't. But it's one of those things that has just happened and been accepted for so long now. You go to see Zu in concert. Do you say "It played a great set" or "They played a great set"? Just sounds wrong, the former...
(shrug)

Precxactly.

Frownland 03-23-2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1935308)
Pretty sure this is a lie. No one does that. Probably because it's a pointless grammar rule that should be flexible.

Mark this as the day you found out that someone you know does that.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1935309)
Yeah. I pretty much always do the opposite. And it's not just me. I see it on Match of the Day: "Spurs weren't great on the defence today, were they?" (Not Spurs wasn't great...") or "That player is really something. He's too good for Middlesboro. They'll struggle to keep him there." Not "It will struggle" etc. Maybe it's wrong; I'm not saying it isn't. But it's one of those things that has just happened and been accepted for so long now. You go to see Zu in concert. Do you say "It played a great set" or "They played a great set"? Just sounds wrong, the former...
(shrug)

I'm aware that people don't know how to use collective nouns, that's why I brought it up.

I would say "Zu played a great set." This isn't a discussion about pronouns. If you were to describe their music, would you say "Zu play a combination of metal and jazz" or would you say something coherent such as "Zu plays a combination of metal and jazz"? "Zu are very good" versus "Zu is very good"? If you're referring to a unit, it's singular. Soz if you've been convinced otherwise because you're wrong.

grindy 03-23-2018 11:39 AM

Plural sounds more righter to me.
Suck balls.

Frownland 03-23-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1935314)
Plural sounds more righter to me.
Suck balls.

Dude in Germany eats up propaganda. Colour me surprised.

Trollheart 03-23-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1935312)
Mark this as the day you found out that someone you know does that.



I'm aware that people don't know how to use collective nouns, that's why I brought it up.

I would say "Zu played a great set." This isn't a discussion about pronouns. If you were to describe their music, would you say "Zu play a combination of metal and jazz" or would you say something coherent such as "Zu plays a combination of metal and jazz"? "Zu are very good" versus "Zu is very good"? If you're referring to a unit, it's singular. Soz if you've been convinced otherwise because you're wrong.

Yeah, that only works if you keep saying Zu like a retard. You can do that, I guess, as it's a short word (but people are going to think there's something wrong with you, that you can't replace the word Zu with another pronoun) but what if the band name is longer? Say, oh I don't know, The Andrew Jackson Jihad? Are you going to keep repeating their name? At some point you have to say "it" or "they". And yes, I'm aware that for that particular band you could refer to it as "he" since it's basically his band, but you know what I mean.
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1935314)
Plural sounds more righter to me.
Suck balls.

Always plural. Suck ball doesn't sound the same, does it? ;)

Frownland 03-23-2018 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1935317)
Yeah, that only works if you keep saying Zu like a retard. You can do that, I guess, as it's a short word (but people are going to think there's something wrong with you, that you can't replace the word Zu with another pronoun) but what if the band name is longer? Say, oh I don't know, The Andrew Jackson Jihad? Are you going to keep repeating their name? At some point you have to say "it" or "they". And yes, I'm aware that for that particular band you could refer to it as "he" since it's basically his band, but you know what I mean.

You must have missed this part of my post.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1935312)
This isn't a discussion about pronouns.

Honestly a totally different ballpark.

grindy 03-23-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1935317)
Always plural. Suck ball doesn't sound the same, does it? ;)

Unless you're Hitler.

grindy 03-23-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1935318)
Honestly a totally different ballspark.

ftfy


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