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OccultHawk 03-22-2018 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1935170)
Misguided grammar nazism doesn't mean that their definitions are any less distinct.

It doesn’t mean they’re any more distinct, either.

Stage one: Not aware at all

Stage two: Thinking of effect as noun and affect as a verb.

Stage three: Understanding affect means having an effect on and effect means to cause something to happen. (That’s the overlap.)

Frownland 03-22-2018 03:12 PM

I guess we just view overlap differently. I get that they're related but origination versus influence is a very large distinction imo. Overlap implies that they can be used interchangeably in some instances.

OccultHawk 03-22-2018 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1935178)
I guess we just view overlap differently. I get that they're related but origination versus influence is a very large distinction imo. Overlap implies that they can be used interchangeably in some instances.

Put it this way: People use them incorrectly often but people also often incorrectly assume they’re being used incorrectly. I’ll leave it at that.

Akai 03-22-2018 03:32 PM

Probably the most boring discussion in human history tbf.

Frownland 03-22-2018 03:53 PM

You're right. Let's just repeat semi-related lyrics at length.

DwnWthVwls 03-22-2018 04:00 PM

Dear Grindy,

Sushi != fish

Sushi is a preparation.

Signed,
FML

Frownland 03-22-2018 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1935187)

Sushi != fish

Idk what the factorial of sushi is, but I'm pretty sure that it's not fish.

DwnWthVwls 03-22-2018 04:24 PM

Idk what music is objectively, but I'm pretty sure Frown doesn't create it.

Trollheart 03-22-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1935137)
Treating band names as plurals.

This is one I can never get. A band, a team, any collection of individuals I'll always use the plural. Marillion are crap or Marillion is crap? Man City are going to win the title or Man City is going to win the title? The USAF has a lot of aircraft or the USAF have a lot of aircraft?
Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1935166)
No, they're literally ****.

Ah. So they're brown, sticky and smelly? Got it.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1935168)
It’s probably best to keep your simple distinctions where they are but if you read the complete definitions it can get blurry. People avoid using effect as a verb because so many people will jump to the conclusion they’re confusing it with affect.

I think in fairness you're just using an affectation here to try to have an effect on something that doesn't affect me, but the effect is minimal.

Affectionately yours,
TH.

Oh, while we're at it: people (especially football players/managers when being interviewed) who BEGIN a discourse with "As I say..." No, you have said nothing yet, so you are in fact referring back to an event that has not happened yet. Toerag.

Also, does anyone notice (you Americans won't I guess) that commentators now declare, when a goalkeeper punches away a ball, "Oh he fisted it away!"? Fisting is something, ah, entirely different, pal.

And by the way, "statuesque defending" is not what you believe it is, idiot.

Frownland 03-22-2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1935210)
This is one I can never get. A band, a team, any collection of individuals I'll always use the plural. Marillion are crap or Marillion is crap? Man City are going to win the title or Man City is going to win the title? The USAF has a lot of aircraft or the USAF have a lot of aircraft?

If you're referring to a single group or organization, then use the singular. For example, "Wolves in Sheepskin is one of the greatest bands ever."


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