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Old 05-07-2018, 02:56 PM   #121 (permalink)
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People who support their city's sports teams are sheep tbh.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:57 PM   #122 (permalink)
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What do you mean? Sports teams are typically filled with players who aren't from the city they play for, owned by people who may or may not be from the city in question, and the team itself may, at the drop of a hat, pack up and relocate to a different city. How does that represent a city more than a band comprised of individuals from that city who also got their start as a band in that city?
That's not a thing here, I can only think of one that has done that. If the 'franchise' is moving around to other places then that removes that argument but mine has played at its current home since the 1800s as have many others. For most they carry the name of the city, have always played there and will never move, so that is more than a band would do.
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:58 PM   #123 (permalink)
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People who support their city's sports teams are sheep tbh.
No they're not. Maybe they want to attend matches in person?
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:01 PM   #124 (permalink)
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That's not a thing here, I can only think of one that has done that. If the 'franchise' is moving around to other places then that removes that argument but mine has played at its current home since the 1800s as have many others. For most they carry the name of the city, have always played there and will never move, so that is more than a band would do.
How does some guy from Spain who doesn't give a **** about Birmingham aside from liking the checks he gets stroked for playing for your team carry the name of the city?
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Seriously, and I'm not being a dick, what benefits? I don't see any but of course I'm Irish so you know. But what benefits do you see England gets in retaining an outdated system that almost no other country still uses?
Tourism money for one. People overseas tend to care more than we do.
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How does some guy from Spain who doesn't give a **** about Birmingham aside from liking the checks he gets stroked for playing for your team carry the name of the city?
Birmingham City carries the name of the city.
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No they're not. Maybe they want to attend matches in person?
It's total sheep stuff.
Nothing wrong with it, but why not be honest about it.
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That's not a thing here, I can only think of one that has done that. If the 'franchise' is moving around to other places then that removes that argument but mine has played at its current home since the 1800s as have many others. For most they carry the name of the city, have always played there and will never move, so that is more than a band would do.
I would also say that, on an international level, bands represent cities more than sports do. When I think Liverpool, I think Beatles, not whatever sports teams they have there.
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That's not a thing here, I can only think of one that has done that. If the 'franchise' is moving around to other places then that removes that argument but mine has played at its current home since the 1800s as have many others. For most they carry the name of the city, have always played there and will never move, so that is more than a band would do.
It's true. When Wimbledon (as they were at the time) relocated to Milton Keynes there was ructions. They eventually changed their name to MK Dons. It just doesn't happen. Teams may move to a new stadium but almost always remain in the city/town.
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How does some guy from Spain who doesn't give a **** about Birmingham aside from liking the checks he gets stroked for playing for your team carry the name of the city?
You know nothing about English football. A Spanish guy coming to say Man City, Villa or any other team will become part of the whole ethos of the team, one of the lads, a regular fixture in the town, at the pubs, the night clubs, special events. They're not just there for the money. They get invested in the city, often financially.
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Tourism money for one. People overseas tend to care more than we do.
Okay good point, I guess. Still doesn't, for me, justify the vast sums of money they get and the properties they inherit for doing nothing but being born into that family.
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Birmingham City carries the name of the city.
But it's a farce. How much of your actual team and all that surround it are actually of Birmingham? It's like Hillary Clinton moving to New York just so she could run for Senate in a state I have no actual proof she'd ever been to.
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