Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1947812)

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1947871)

And it doesn't change what I was saying about successful teams raising a city's profile especially when they use the name of the city. That team is an exception to the rule because it's not really a thing over here or in Europe.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1947816)

That's not my impression, but the point still stands. If I mention Detroit to you, do you honestly think of the Lions, Tigers, Pistons, or Red Wings before you think of Danny Brown, The Stooges, The White Stripes, or Eminem?

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1947818)

Wait, do people actually know what cities arists are from?

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1947819)

I don't like American sports either.

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1947835)

I hate every single woman who has ever been on a show titled "The Real Housewives of (insert city name here)".

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1947850)

It is true.

I read a site for city development. One of the biggest complaints the users on there have at the moment is that all of our teams are doing quite badly and have been for a while. We've had some of the best development outside London over the past five years or so, but the one thing that remains a constant complaint is the lack of a team at the highest level of football because of the revenue and exposure playing in the Champions League gives you, and the size of the audience, which everyone is aware of. It really can be important in getting the city's name out there and boosting things like tourism and development. The Commonwealth Games should be a good boost but we'd like teams to be competing. If we had made the CL in 2009 VP would be a 50,000+ stadium right now.

A good example of a city where it is predominantly known for its sports team would be Dortmund, imo.

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1947878)

Mad isn't it. I only answered the question the thread asked :D

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1947887)

Because "the rule" is defined by Europe, of course.

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1947894)

Nah. When I hear Detroit I think of Motown and cars. But then we're not American so what would we know about all those bands, none of whom I knew came from Motor City.

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1947894)

Doesn't invalidate my point though, and demolishes your argument in the process.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1947898)

So you think of a record label over all the city's major sports teams. Thanks for proving my point.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1947903)

How?! You just backed up my point that sports teams don't really represent their cities. I was talking about soccer cause you two are British but my point was meant to apply to American football as well. Are you on your period?

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1947887)

Because "the rule" is defined by Europe, of course.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1947768)

What do you mean? Sports teams are typically filled with players who aren't from the city they play for, owned by people who may or may not be from the city in question, and the team itself may, at the drop of a hat, pack up and relocate to a different city. How does that represent a city more than a band comprised of individuals from that city who also got their start as a band in that city?

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1947907)

Yeah but I don't know, or care about, any American sports teams. Stop cherrypicking. I already said Barcelona, Madrid, Manchester, all defined by their footy teams.

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1947908)

It doesn't happen in South America either. This is what you said:



What you should have said is sports franchises in the States. Your post assumed it was commonplace and I am saying outside of the US, it isn't. It is actually pretty much non existent barring the MK Dons.