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Lucem Ferre 06-06-2019 12:45 PM

I don't always trust a lot of these economic reports because Utah had one that claimed we had an all time low of homelessness when that was completely contradictory to the truth. Fact was that our homeless people aren't checking into the shelter and the head count goes by what's in the shelter.

TL/DR numbers don't always tell the truth.

Lucem Ferre 06-06-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2059886)
it's not that they lie, they just don't always tell the whole story

moving to N Texas could be a great economic decision, but then you'd have to live in N Texas

Or they get exploited to push an agenda.

Plankton 06-06-2019 01:05 PM

Any worse than some area's of Chicago?

OccultHawk 06-06-2019 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2059890)
I was able to set up a tent and not be bothered in San Diego...ask Mondo

but no I mean there is still a ton of "holy **** I hope I don't break down out here" land in Texas

It sounded like you think it’s cool if we put a few more Houstons in Texas. It’s not.

OccultHawk 06-06-2019 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2059895)
why not?

Because Jesus can’t really make it rain manna from Heaven.

Frownland 06-06-2019 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2059884)
I don't always trust a lot of these economic reports because Utah had one that claimed we had an all time low of homelessness when that was completely contradictory to the truth. Fact was that our homeless people aren't checking into the shelter and the head count goes by what's in the shelter.

TL/DR numbers don't always tell the truth.

Could also be a state level statistic when the city-level numbers are a much different story.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2059897)
Because Jesus can’t really make it rain manna from Heaven.

Moving from a spread out populace to more condensed population centers=/=increasing the population

The latter's gonna happen whether you're spread out or stacked on top of each other.

OccultHawk 06-06-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2059895)
why not?

I think we ought to preserve our national parks, but Texas certainly has the space

You know, I kind of respect the way you just said you didn’t get that cartoon instead of just googling red shift. But your lack of understanding of environmental science is appalling. I’m sorry for making it personal but you’re in your mid twenties now. I’ve given you the stats on remaining large mammals. I’ve laid out the math explaining the difference between thousands and billions. You might as well join the Christian Right. No amount of evidence will steer you away from what you want to believe.

Lucem Ferre 06-06-2019 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2059898)
Could also be a state level statistic when the city-level numbers are a much different story.



Moving from a spread out populace to more condensed population centers=/=increasing the population

The latter's gonna happen whether you're spread out or stacked on top of each other.

No, I read up on it. We're not as bad as other major cities but we definitely saw a growth when that article came out so I did some digging and found another article explaining why they came to that conclusion.

Frownland 06-06-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2059899)
You might as well join the Christian Right. No amount of evidence will steer you away from what you want to believe.

This here is what we call projection

OccultHawk 06-06-2019 01:33 PM

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Moving from a spread out populace to more condensed population centers=/=increasing the population
I get that and I understand the advantages of curbing urban sprawl.

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The latter's gonna happen whether you're spread out or stacked on top of each other.
Unfortunately you’re right about that. It’s sad that we can’t collectively decide to protect the world’s biodiversity but that’s the way it is. Everyone thinks they should be allowed to shower the world with their DNA unchecked by culture or government. Who cares that once we crash the tipping point there’s no coming back? Let’s blame it on greed instead of need so we can pretend the problem only exists in the places we don’t like.


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