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Trollheart 07-22-2018 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1978893)
Rubber Soul has the perfect come-back but never uses it.
[said member] insults Rubber Soul calls him racists or whatever.
Rubber Soul: "I'm Rubber Soul and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you."
/end of heated and contentious discourse.
:bowdown:

Aux-In 07-22-2018 05:41 PM
Who cares what other people think?

Janszoon 07-22-2018 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aux-In (Post 1978925)
Who cares what other people think?
Everyone on the internet.

Lisnaholic 07-22-2018 06:10 PM
@ Rubber Soul: Yes, you absolutely belong here, rubber soul. As you know, I've always enjoyed your many contributions to the music threads. :thumb:

@ Everyone: If this thread is a cry for attention, well it's hardly the first such on MB, so why not give RS some forum love, meagre as it is, and vote "Yes" in the poll to cheer him up?

@ YorkeDaddy: Regardless of the rights and wrongs of your difference of opinion, if rubber soul is more thin-skinned than you first expected, why not offer to leave him alone? He's been going through some difficult things irl recently and in any case, there's plenty of space on MB for two contradictory opinions to co-exist; plenty of space for two members to dodge around each other.

YorkeDaddy 07-22-2018 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1978936)
@ YorkeDaddy: Regardless of the rights and wrongs of your difference of opinion, if rubber soul is more thin-skinned than you first expected, why not offer to leave him alone? He's been going through some difficult things irl recently and in any case, there's plenty of space on MB for two contradictory opinions to co-exist; plenty of space for two members to dodge around each other.
I was completely ready to do just this, until he continued on multiple occasions to make snide, passive aggressive comments during discussions I wasn’t even a part of, saying nonsense like “lol don’t say such and such or you’ll be called a racist.” It was so obnoxious and frustrating that I called him out on it. If he would have stopped talking about it after our initial discussions I never would have brought it up again

Lisnaholic 07-22-2018 06:19 PM
^ If that's true, perhaps he'll tone that down when he comes back now that you've pointed it out.

YorkeDaddy 07-22-2018 06:22 PM
You can easily see that it’s true by looking at his posting history. He kept bringing it up totally unprovoked

If he does come back and never brings it up again I’ll leave him alone. If he keeps throwing a hissy fit when people take offense to his ignorant posts, I won’t leave him alone

Neapolitan 07-22-2018 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1978938)
^ If that's true, perhaps he'll tone that down when he comes back now that you've pointed it out.
I don't think it's rubber soul who has to tone it down. I think it's the other way around, it's the guy who attacked rubber soul who has to tune it down a bit. Rubber Soul never said what [said member] accused him of saying. Rubber soul's response was to "didn’t learn" which he said "grow stupider" he never said "gets racist." It's [said member] twisting rubber soul's words around and ramping it up into an argument.

I honestly don't know for sure if this is only a misunderstanding on the part of [said member] or that [said member] is trolling for an argument. But I'm placing my bet it's trolling.

Quote:
Originally Posted by [said member]
Glad to see you didn’t learn a god damn thing from our discussion
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1978205)
Yeah, people grow stupider as they get older too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by [said member]
2. He laughed it off and explained it was because he’s old and everybody gets racist when they get old (wtf)

YorkeDaddy 07-22-2018 07:25 PM
Glad to have extra confirmation that either Nea can’t read or has selective reading that only benefits his point! I’m placing my bet it’s the former.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1977574)
Um, excuse me but segregated water fountains were gone by my generation. It was the generation before mine that had them eliminated. And guess what? We were young once. We were idealistic (I'd like to think I still am- you know, like Bernie Sanders but you probably think he's a bigot too). Something happened to the majority of my generation just like it will happen to yours. It might even happen to you. Check these words twenty years from now if this forum still exists. People become more conservative as they get older. It's a fatal flaw in humankind I'm sorry to say.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. I love your idealism, Yorke, I really do. But condemning everyone for being older than you isn't going to solve the world's problems. Voting and making your voice heard will. See ya :)
And in case I’m accused of being the only one that interpreted the above statements in that way:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1977576)
Take note, YorkeDaddy! You're gonna be a racist too!

Batman 07-22-2018 07:31 PM
Fvxking scram u fvcking crybaby. Take your jar of tears with you.

Key 07-22-2018 07:35 PM
I don't really know rubber soul that well so I guess...either? Idk. Seems like a petty argument tbf. And yes, YorkeDaddy is hitler.

The Batlord 07-22-2018 07:37 PM
Hitler was a better troll though.

Neapolitan 07-22-2018 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman (Post 1978948)
Fvxking scram u fvcking crybaby. Take your jar of tears with you.
Just to be fair was that aimed at [said member] or me?

Batman 07-23-2018 01:56 AM
OP.




I'm not sure how serious I was at the time. I got paid which means I'm getting drunk which means I will be an ******* and you will get over it.

MicShazam 07-23-2018 05:11 AM
My understanding of the Yorkedaddy vs Rubbersoul events

Yorkedaddy is like
https://memegenerator.net/img/images/12842057.jpg

Then Rubbersoul is like
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/06/9d/99/0...2f67f95c43.jpg

Then Yorkedaddy gets all
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhwIEjHU0AAzY7g.jpg

and then like
https://jordimorgan.files.wordpress....01/torches.jpg

and Rubbersoul then more or less
http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploa...away-gif-2.gif

Neapolitan 07-23-2018 05:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman (Post 1978948)
@OP Fvxking scram u fvcking crybaby. Take your jar of tears with you.
^ ftfy
I'm sure if rubber soul put his tears in a Mason jar you would drink them thinking it's moonshine.

Mindfulness 07-23-2018 05:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1979000)
My understanding of the Yorkedaddy vs Rubbersoul events

Yorkedaddy is like
https://memegenerator.net/img/images/12842057.jpg

Then Rubbersoul is like
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/06/9d/99/0...2f67f95c43.jpg

Then Yorkedaddy gets all
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhwIEjHU0AAzY7g.jpg

and then like
https://jordimorgan.files.wordpress....01/torches.jpg

and Rubbersoul then more or less
http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploa...away-gif-2.gif
https://boxden.com/smilies/dZQ5Tm2.png

MicShazam 07-23-2018 05:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1979001)
^ ftfy
I'm sure if rubber soul put his tears in a Mason jar you would drink them thinking it's moonshine.
What!?!

but also lol

Lisnaholic 07-23-2018 07:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1978947)
Glad to have extra confirmation that either Nea can’t read or has selective reading that only benefits his point! I’m placing my bet it’s the former.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1977574)
Um, excuse me but segregated water fountains were gone by my generation. It was the generation before mine that had them eliminated. And guess what? We were young once. We were idealistic (I'd like to think I still am- you know, like Bernie Sanders but you probably think he's a bigot too). Something happened to the majority of my generation just like it will happen to yours. It might even happen to you. Check these words twenty years from now if this forum still exists. People become more conservative as they get older. It's a fatal flaw in humankind I'm sorry to say.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. I love your idealism, Yorke, I really do. But condemning everyone for being older than you isn't going to solve the world's problems. Voting and making your voice heard will. See ya :)
^ If this is your smoking gun, YorkeDaddy, then on the evidence presented so far I agree with the appraisal of MicShazam and Neapolitan. It's not fair to lay the blame for segregated water fountains at rubbersoul's door, but you seem to be painting him as an outright racist regardless. To your credit, you are fair and factual enough to have included in your quote the bit that I have bolded, which rather undercuts your complaint, imo, because it is both uncontroversial and amicable.

To try and get a bit of context, I read on through that hip-hop thread expecting to find some "snide, passive aggressive comments", but instead I found this from RS:-

Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1977584)
See, that's what I mean, Yorke. You don't know me. I'm actually pretty much a lefty. I've toned it down some as I've gotten older but the idealism still burns.
Anyhow, this is supposed to be a thread about hip-hop so I'll take my leave. Keep fighting the good fight. :)
^ Another inoffensive post as far as I can see, which leaves me wondering why you have any issue with RS at all.

Aux-In 07-23-2018 08:10 AM
YorkeDaddy hands out 10,000 Needles to all of his opponents.

The Batlord 07-23-2018 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1979001)
^ ftfy
I'm sure if rubber soul put his tears in a Mason jar you would drink them thinking it's moonshine.
http://assets.fightland.com/content-...on-vice650.jpg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1979019)
^ If this is your smoking gun, YorkeDaddy, then on the evidence presented so far I agree with the appraisal of MicShazam and Neapolitan. It's not fair to lay the blame for segregated water fountains at rubbersoul's door, but you seem to be painting him as an outright racist regardless. To your credit, you are fair and factual enough to have included in your quote the bit that I have bolded, which rather undercuts your complaint, imo, because it is both uncontroversial and amicable.

To try and get a bit of context, I read on through that hip-hop thread expecting to find some "snide, passive aggressive comments", but instead I found this from RS:-



^ Another inoffensive post as far as I can see, which leaves me wondering why you have any issue with RS at all.
Well we were pointing out that Rubber Soul seemed to be showing subconscious racial bias as opposed to outright racism. Dismissing that out of hand and then trying to pass it off as normal for older folk is exactly the kind of thing that keeps subconscious racial biases around, which can be frustrating even if the person specifically being spoken to isn't necessarily showing any real lack of character, just lack of self-awareness. Especially since well-meaning people like you question whether we're not just imagining things (not a shot at you, just saying). YorkeDaddy is certainly a cock goblin though.

Lisnaholic 07-23-2018 11:21 AM
^ Thanks for trying to explain the problem, Batlord. As others have suggested, it's beginning to look like an over-analysed storm in a teacup to me. Nevertheless, I can't quite avoid topping up the teacup with another splash of analysis:-

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1979039)
Well we were pointing out that Rubber Soul seemed to be showing subconscious racial bias as opposed to outright racism. Dismissing that out of hand and then trying to pass it off as normal for older folk is exactly the kind of thing that keeps subconscious racial biases around, which can be frustrating even if the person specifically being spoken to isn't necessarily showing any real lack of character, just lack of self-awareness.
(i) Imputing someone for subconscious racial bias based on MB posts sounds like a bit of a stretch to me. As we all know, based on the words of a post, it's often hard enough just to tell what's a joke and what's a serious comment, let alone something as subtle as subconscious bias.
(ii) I understand that coming up against subconscious racial bias can be frustrating. It's a pity that YD didn't spell that out as clearly, as dispassionately, as you have just done when he posted:-

Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1978672)
Aw damn we were all loving your prejudiced uneducated posts and lack of contribution towards anything musical
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1979039)
Especially since well-meaning people like you question whether we're not just imagining things (not a shot at you, just saying). YorkeDaddy is certainly a cock goblin though.
^ I appreciate the bit in brackets, thanks. Now I'm left wondering what on earth a "cock goblin" is. ;)

MicShazam 07-23-2018 11:31 AM
I don't know what a cock goblin is either, but it might be one like that dude on that Goblin Cock album cover.
Google it, but beware of NSFW imagery :laughing:

The Batlord 07-23-2018 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1979116)
^ I appreciate the bit in brackets, thanks. Now I'm left wondering what on earth a "cock goblin" is. ;)
Those are parentheses not brackets. Get out of my house.

Lisnaholic 07-23-2018 11:48 AM
^ Wow! These full-time Grammar Nazis are so touchy!

I didn't find any outrageous Cock Goblin album art, MicShazam, but I did come across these, so it's not like I wasted my time clicking on things of no value...

http://www.starkdesignny.com/wordpre...mcovers111.jpg

grindy 07-23-2018 11:56 AM
We're ignoring the real problem here: YD has apparently become a triggered little SJW cuck.:(

Key 07-23-2018 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1979128)
We're ignoring the real problem here: YD has apparently become a triggered little SJW cuck.:(
He's been that way.

grindy 07-23-2018 12:01 PM
Even more worrying.
Although I now remember that he once gave me **** about usig "OCD" in a not strictly medical sense. Lol.

Neapolitan 07-23-2018 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1979131)
Even more worrying.
Although I now remember that he once gave me **** about usig "OCD" in a not strictly medical sense. Lol.
How very obsessive/compulsive of him.

MicShazam 07-23-2018 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1979127)
^ Wow! These full-time Grammar Nazis are so touchy!

I didn't find any outrageous Cock Goblin album art, MicShazam, but I did come across these, so it's not like I wasted my time clicking on things of no value...

http://www.starkdesignny.com/wordpre...mcovers111.jpg
Those are nice covers. I wonder if the one to the right was intended as being suggestive or if it was just more innocent times :laughing:

And I was referring to this album cover: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/15...d268bd7304.jpg (NSFW alert!)

MicShazam 07-23-2018 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1979131)
Even more worrying.
Although I now remember that he once gave me **** about usig "OCD" in a not strictly medical sense. Lol.
Why would that even be a problem? I'm so much of a liberal cuck boy that I have feminist literature on my bookshelf, but I never agreed with this retarded war of words. It's not pragmatic, it's silly and damaging to any cause worth fighting for.

Frownland 07-23-2018 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1979164)
Why would that even be a problem? I'm so much of a liberal cuck boy that I have feminist literature on my bookshelf, but I never agreed with this retarded war of words. It's not pragmatic, it's silly and damaging to any cause worth fighting for.
:mad:

MicShazam 07-23-2018 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1979166)
:mad:
I did that on purpose.
Does that make it better or worse?

Lisnaholic 07-23-2018 03:28 PM
^ Definitely worse!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1979159)
And I was referring to this album cover: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/15...d268bd7304.jpg (NSFW alert!)
^ :yikes: Any of you guys ever click on something and then wish you hadn't ?

OccultHawk 07-23-2018 05:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1978694)
Well, I realize I'm being hassled by exactly one person as noted from this quote here...



I also realize that forums as a whole are perhaps a way for people to heap abuse on others since they are too chicken to do it in real life lest they get punched in the face.

I did come back with the hope that Exo's edict would make a difference and, to an extent, it has. Still, I didn't come back here to receive abuse. I simply wanted to enjoy the musical discussions and, frankly, I do think I contribute some here, maybe not as much as Trollheart, obviously, but I thought I carried my share.


So I guess the question is do I really contribute here or am I just a waste of time? I will keep the poll up for a week while I take a sabbatical (meaning no posts or MB Classics). If, when I return, I see that more people than not do not want me here, then I'll be happy to leave. After all I don't want to contaminate this post with uneducated posts without any musical contributions.

See you all in a week (maybe)
I think your hypersensitivity and penchant for uninteresting drama makes your presence a net negative. I’d prefer you not to comeback.

MicShazam 07-23-2018 05:07 PM
Well, at least you're being honest I guess.

simplephysics 07-23-2018 05:47 PM
This goes in the cringe thread hall of fame. Can someone close this nonsense already?

WWWP 07-23-2018 06:11 PM
only mb can make drama boring

The Batlord 07-23-2018 06:19 PM
True drama threads need to be made by crazy people. Rubber Soul is just kind of whiny and he isn't even participating.

OccultHawk 07-23-2018 06:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1979273)
True drama threads need to be made by crazy people. Rubber Soul is just kind of whiny and he isn't even participating.
kind of?


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