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OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2039765)
Vascectemies should be given at birth and reversals should be free. Am I a centrist now?

No. The centrist position is vasectomies should be given at birth and castrations should be free if so desired.

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039767)
obviously with our current economic system

we’re running out of oil

Frownland 01-31-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039766)
Paying people to breed is also bull**** capitalist nonsense

Paying people not to breed - to do literally nothing - is a far more gentle form of capitalism if you can even call it that

Two sides if the same coin. Consider this your registration as a Democrat.

Blarobbarg 01-31-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039766)
Paying people to breed is also bull**** capitalist nonsense

Paying people not to breed - to do literally nothing - is a far more gentle form of capitalism if you can even call it that

The thing is, you're not paying them to not have children. You're paying them if they give up the right to ever have a child, if they so choose. You are taking away their right to live normal human lives.

I am not saying that overpopulation is not a problem... but the solution is not genocide. The solution is taking away the rights of a handful of companies and nations from running the earth's resources into the dirt, and creating more efficient systems.

Also to go into space, but maybe that's a pipe dream.

WWWP 01-31-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039770)
humans are the only thing worthwhile we know of in the universe

well women at least

but like have you heard about ants

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2039768)
i don't think i'm following your thinking.

the disease should be eradicated it in its entirety

you're turning it into a vaccine

You can’t always get all the cancer

WWWP 01-31-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039775)
You can’t always get all the cancer

that's why you kill the host!


https://media1.tenor.com/images/ef49...itemid=9449040

WWWP 01-31-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039777)
show me the animals capable of forming This Heat

it's just us

tru



v tru

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:34 PM

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the solution is not genocide
It’s such a nice genocide though

And honestly it’s really hard to reduce population without reducing population

I hate capitalism/ I think more than anyone I’ve met irl

But babies aren’t made in factories

Frownland 01-31-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039769)
No. The centrist position is vasectomies should be given at birth and castrations should be free if so desired.

Centrists may not be able to get much done, but they sure raise hell with the sides.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039777)
show me the animals capable of forming This Heat

it's just us

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird

They're better at music, actually.

WWWP 01-31-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2039780)
Centrists may not be able to get much done, but they sure raise hell with the sides.

lmao

Blarobbarg 01-31-2019 07:36 PM

Whales also make better music than humans

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:38 PM

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The thing is, you're not paying them to not have children. You're paying them if they give up the right to ever have a child, if they so choose.
No offense but those are exactly the same things

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You are taking away their right to live normal human lives.
1) it’s voluntary under my plan
2) not breeding is the best normal

Frownland 01-31-2019 07:39 PM

Blaro's description is actually more diplomatic lol

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039786)
dogs suck

You’ve never ****ed a black woman

DwnWthVwls 01-31-2019 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039750)
right but the children are not genetically born inferior it's all environmental

so the idea that the population is physically decreasing in intelligence because the impoverished have more children is a funny one, but not factual

if people continue to use less of their brain because they are born into poverty/****ty environments where it isn't used the brain would theoretically devolve and other traits conducive to that environment would evolve.

DwnWthVwls 01-31-2019 07:44 PM

It changes over time.. that's literally evolution.

WWWP 01-31-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039786)
dogs suck

YOU suck

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlDRVXeXoAMsXAR.jpg

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2039789)
if people continue to use less of their brain because they are born into poverty/****ty environments where it isn't used the brain would theoretically devolve and other traits conducive to that environment would evolve.

Wouldn’t it be crazy if that happened to a certain minority and it ended up so bad they were more likely to go to prison than to college?

The Batlord 01-31-2019 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039740)
Have yourself sterilized and retire at 20 - open to all races

It’s hella better than paying the most repugnant people on the planet to breed (the current system)




Good one.

But I thought you were an antinatalist...

Aren’t you in favor of voluntary human extinction? Why not reward the living that do their part?


Also, doesn’t pretty much everyone agree Idiocracy is really happening? The only people I know that have more than two babies are all repulsive and stupid. Religious weird-o’s and illiterate welfare cases. Maybe eugenics just needs a makeover after the Hitler thing.

Yeah see though "almost" nobody is taking this deal. I'm putting "almost" in quotation marks to emphasise just how much nobody will ****ing take this deal. Like, if the putting forth of this idea were the entirety of your reason to exist then you might as well have never been born. Like, congrats on coming up with a non-solution. I'm sure the countless generations of humans who will be born because their parents completely ignored your thing will remember that thing that their parents kinda remembered from some room in their school or whatever the ****. It's almost as if you thought of a thing you could talk about so that you would never actually have to do anything useful.

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2039792)
It changes over time.. that's literally evolution.

What if it took MORE intelligence to survive in a more difficult situation?

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2039795)
Yeah see though "almost" nobody is taking this deal. I'm putting "almost" in quotation marks to emphasise just how much nobody will ****ing take this deal. Like, if the putting forth of this idea were the entirety of your reason to exist then you might as well have never been born. Like, congrats on coming up with a non-solution. I'm sure the countless generations of humans who will be born because their parents completely ignored your thing will remember that thing that their parents kinda remembered from some room in their school or whatever the ****. It's almost as if you thought of a thing you could talk about so that you would never actually have to do anything useful.

Don’t know till we try it.

WWWP 01-31-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039796)
your brain not developing right because of malnutrition, is not a mutation in the Darwinian sense

yep

DwnWthVwls 01-31-2019 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039796)
evolution by natural selection would dictate that people reproducing more were born "stupid" to begin with

if rolling the genetic lottery of being worse at problem solving skills for instance meant that you would probably have a higher number of children

your brain not developing right because of malnutrition, is not a mutation in the Darwinian sense

Okay, I see what youre saying. Fair point.

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039796)
evolution by natural selection would dictate that people reproducing more were born "stupid" to begin with

if rolling the genetic lottery of being worse at problem solving skills for instance meant that you would probably have a higher number of children

your brain not developing right because of malnutrition, is not a mutation in the Darwinian sense

New topic but recently they’ve been saying that certain types of trauma actually can change your DNA and be passed on.

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:57 PM

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hs...s-child-abuse/

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Child abuse may leave molecular “scars” on the DNA of male survivors, suggesting that health problems related to trauma could conceivably be passed on to future generations, according to a new study led by Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 07:58 PM

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-018-0252-1

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Offspring of persons exposed to childhood abuse are at higher risk of neurodevelopmental and physical health disparities across the life course.
Scary ****

WWWP 01-31-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039803)
New topic but recently they’ve been saying that certain types of trauma actually can change your DNA and be passed on.

yes, transgenerational trauma

f.ex. slavery, cycles of abuse

such inherited trauma exposure manifests as poor coping skills, behavioral issues, increased risk of ptsd and depression.

similarly, in my field we talk a lot about ACEs (adverse childhood effects) and their link to mental illness, addiction, "undesired behaviors and outcomes."

OccultHawk 01-31-2019 08:03 PM

https://www.genome.gov/27554258/chil...genetic-marks/

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To address this question, the authors examined a subset of 169 participants from the Grady Trauma Project-a survey of more than 5,000 individuals in Atlanta with a high lifetime exposure to multiple types of trauma, violence and abuse.
Holy ****! I was born in Grady! No wonder...

[MERIT] 02-01-2019 12:34 AM

Rewarding voluntary sterilization does little to proliferate the survival of the fittest. Also, since money is an arbitrary construct, those who control monetary policy and production would be able to reproduce at rates much higher relative to the other races, and they would fulfill their plan of taking over the world.

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2039538)
Grindr, hands down.

:clap:

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2039598)
Were you here when Goofle went all red pill on this forum? At first we thought he was having a goof (lulz) and didn't say anything but eventually we realized he was serious and kind of shat on him hardcore for months whenever he brought up right wing stuff.

But why? Why just violently shit on and attack someone for having a different belief system than you?

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039630)
I’ve never come close to losing an argument here

https://media.giphy.com/media/l396TK...D4Ig/giphy.gif

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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2039619)
As someone who has a political ideology that differs from the general consensus of MB (and no, not a far right one no matter how much it's joked about, but one that is more to the right in comparison), I can attest it's really tiring to get in a multi-pronged debate on here. It's easy to see how someone that goes against the political grain can be turned off after fighting a brutal (and often very barbed) argument 'attacking' them on all sides.

I've been in such confrontations before but my life isn't ruled by politics so I don't find it an injury to my character when somebody (or most somebodies) disagree with me. In the end it's mostly about having a thick skin. Get one or get out.

Yeah, it WOULD be nice to have a mod [like ME, make ME a mod] to stick up for the non-Communists :beer: [/JediMindTrick]
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Originally Posted by windsock (Post 2039660)
whoever keeps voting option 6 are straight up losers.

The fact that "Anal Beadz" isn't even an option just proves that we have strayed too far from our roots and need an upheaval :(

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2039723)
Demographic shift isn't something that you can deal with without advocating for actively fascist policies and then you'd have to prove that those policies would be both implementable and sustainable.

On point!

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2039735)
OH does nazi the problem with eugenics

https://i.imgflip.com/1pzinj.jpg

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039745)
You not what else contributes to a higher birth rate? Welfare.

I’m saying set it up to skip the child and go straight to the support. Why force people to breed to get welfare checks? That’s inhumane actually.

Universal Basic Income should definitely have already been implemented by now.

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Originally Posted by Blarobbarg (Post 2039746)
anarchism has nothing to do with eugenics

#QuotedForTruth

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Originally Posted by Blarobbarg (Post 2039757)
this entire policy just sounds like a way for the uber-rich and powerful to control who is allowed to have children, and for what reason. This is one step away from poor people being used for breeding stock to create slaves and/or food.

That's why we need to reform the monetary system by taking the power to create currency away from central banks [which are owned by the ultra-rich] and giving it to sovereign nations. It's not fool-proof, but it will at least give the little guys a chance.

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2039758)
i contain multitudes

https://travelislife.org/wp-content/...hael-Scott.jpg

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2039765)
Vasectomies should be given at birth

No.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2039770)
humans are the only thing worthwhile we know of in the universe

well women at least

You toxic feminism is showing.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039771)
we’re running out of oil

No, we're not. New deposits are found all the time. But that's not to say that we should continue to rely on fossil fuels at the expense of the environment, especially when renewable energy sources are so prevalent.

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Originally Posted by Blarobbarg (Post 2039783)
Whales also make better music than humans

Not better than froundland's! Take it back!

MicShazam 02-01-2019 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2039837)
But why? Why just violently shit on and attack someone for having a different belief system than you?

1) Because some belief systems are harmful and upheld only by *******s.
2) To stroke my own ego and make me feel good because I'm a self-righteous prick.

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2039837)
You toxic feminism is showing.

Men are responsible for like 99% of all horrible stuff caused by humans.

[MERIT] 02-01-2019 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 2039843)
1) Because some belief systems are harmful and upheld only by *******s.
2) To stroke my own ego and make me feel good because I'm a self-righteous prick.

Anything that can be destroyed by the truth, deserves to be. But not all "alt-right" ideology is toxic.

There is something to be said for isolationism and non-intervention in foreign affairs. But white supremacism is just as bad as zionism, and both need to eat a dick.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to be around people who are similar to you and have the same race, religious beliefs and moral code. The problem arises when those people start to think that other people should think their way and are inferior, or that there is no place in society for those others.

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 2039843)
Men are responsible for like 99% of all horrible stuff caused by humans.

Really? And who gave birth to those men? WOMEN! BOOM! #Logic :stupid:

grindy 02-01-2019 01:49 AM

I'm clearly the biggest fascist among the mods because I agree with a lot of what OH says here.

Marie Monday 02-01-2019 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2039710)
Wait Maria's gay????




What's up girl, asl?

Sweetie I have a sleater kinney signature and willow rosenberg / carrie brownstein avatars so there was like a 98 % chance I was gay <3

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 2039843)
Men are responsible for like 99% of all horrible stuff caused by humans.

Tbf that is because women didn't get the chance to do horrible stuff

MicShazam 02-01-2019 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MariaExpressesHerself (Post 2039850)
Tbf that is because wonen didn't get the chance to do horrible stuff

I have a less charitable view, although there's an element of truth there. Let's see you modern, free women get in the game and screw some stuff up for everyone.

OccultHawk 02-01-2019 03:02 AM

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No, we're not. New deposits are found all the time
It’s non-renewable and we’re using it. Therefore, we’re running out.

[MERIT] 02-01-2019 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039854)
It’s non-renewable and we’re using it. Therefore, we’re running out.

Oil is an abiotic product of hydrocarbons and is continuously replenished naturally. We are not running out.

OccultHawk 02-01-2019 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2039855)
Oil is an abiotic product of hydrocarbons and is continuously replenished naturally. We are not running out.

How long do you think that process takes, son?

DwnWthVwls 02-01-2019 03:24 AM

Yeah plus we can grow tons of vegetables and make oil from them! :rofl:

grindy 02-01-2019 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2039857)
How long do you think that process takes, son?

It's debunked either way.


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