ants

The Batlord · 05-31-2021, 09:01 PM

Beer and bratwurst are great but I'd shove Germans in a false shower over the smell of sauerkraut. That **** isn't cool, dude.

Neapolitan · 05-31-2021, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff

Who wants to argue?

My arugment is that plants don't have feelings. Bite me.

I mean ants stirpd autocurrent

When you say "stirpd" is that supposed to be "stupid?" I heard plants do have feelings.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Beer and bratwurst are great but I'd shove Germans in a false shower over the smell of sauerkraut. That **** isn't cool, dude.

I love the smell of sauerkraut and hot dogs, or sauerkraut and Kielbasas. But I would wear cologne that smelt that way.

Tristan_Geoff · 05-31-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

When you say "stirpd" is that supposed to be "stupid?" I heard plants do have feelings.

Well your wrong heres why, their brains would be full of dirt and you can’t think dirty 24/7 you’d die

Neapolitan · 05-31-2021, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan_Geoff

Well your wrong heres why, their brains would be full of dirt and you can’t think dirty 24/7 you’d die

Plants are too well grounded to think dirty 24/7. Plants think interesting thoughts though they may be reticent at times and keep their opinions to themselves. Needless to say their interests branch out to many subjects.

Tristan_Geoff · 06-01-2021, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Plants are too well grounded to think dirty 24/7. Plants think interesting thoughts though they may be reticent at times and keep their opinions to themselves. Needless to say their interests branch out to many subjects.

eyyy I see what you did there

Guybrush · 06-01-2021, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

You should go on YouTube and look at bbc empire of the ants with Attenborough. It shows just such a super colony which he says has millions of queens. Sharing food and cooperating in farming aphids, etc. Maybe it's a more recent observation or maybe they're lying. But that'd definitely the impression they give.

Saw it this morning

Although it doesn't go into the many conflicts that exist in anthills, and maybe more so in colonies consisting of many families, it still was a very good documentary, I thought.

I have also taken a quick look at some of Wilson's ideas which don't quite seem as radical as my first impression was, though still enough to cause noise among evolutionary theorists. I won't comment too much on it yet as I've written enough to digest.

As a closing comment for now, I do have the impression that super colonies may be made possible by the ants pheromone system. It is key to how they interact and it is also how they create infrastructure (scent highways), another arena where they could benefit from cooperation. The pheromone system is also something that sets them apart from other social hymenoptera like honey bees who do not form super colonies. At the same time, ants are kinda dumb with pheromones, like how they'll be easily fooled by anything that smells right.

Lucem Ferre · 06-01-2021, 04:02 PM

Can I wear an ant cologne and be accepted in their colony?

**Marie Monday** · 06-01-2021, 04:09 PM

*a scant

The Batlord · 06-01-2021, 04:21 PM

They should make a cake the size of a building. Then dig an intricate series of tunnels in the ground. Then you take a hundred people and just have them get in a line and just go grab pieces of the cake and take it into the human hill and then go back out for more until the cake is gone. I'd do that ****.

Guybrush · 06-01-2021, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Can I wear an ant cologne and be accepted in their colony?

It seems like you could

It does seem like ants can tell nestmates apart from non-nestmates (from another colony) based on smell, but it is unclear to me whether they are able to sniff out kin from non-kin.. which should be an important factor in how interactions evolve.

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Might seem so simple it's really dumb, but perhaps a combination of being unable to recognize kin coupled with some kind of constraint that inhibits the evolution of this ability is all ants need to evolve these weidly altruistic supercolonies.