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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2040818)

The decision to separate the main cast, taking out all the human elements of Daredevil's life, and replace them with ninjas, was perhaps a poor decision. Everything to do with the Punisher was hardcore as **** though.

I was just reading about all that, trying to make sense of wtf I was watching. It's been a few decades since I've read a Daredevil comic, so I've had to do a little catching up.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2040885)

Elektra was cool too

Corny but still rockin, and when eventually she was recognized as crazy as **** but still Daredevil's lobster she became very charming. I'm just bummed her costume never got gud. I know the classic Elektra costume would look kinda ridiculous in the TV series but at least something that resembled it would have been nice.

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2040890)

I want someone to confirm that.
Some **** was so tedious that I had to skip whole scenes.

I've only seen part of it tbh but I don't remember disliking it. It was bogus that the followup with Elektra happened in The Defenders though. Like, once I realized I'd missed a lot of Daredevil's character arc cause I hadn't watched it I got kinda pissed off.

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2040891)

I was just reading about all that, trying to make sense of wtf I was watching. It's been a few decades since I've read a Daredevil comic, so I've had to do a little catching up.

The Punisher didn't start out in Daredevil. He started out in Spider-Man actually. But basically in season 2 of Daredevil (before season 1 of Punisher) he just shows up, starts massacring gang members and putting them on meat hooks, and it's ****ing brutal as ****. He's actually acting like The ****ing Punisher so you don't see a buildup of him going all Punisher, he just is the Punisher. BTW if you actually want to get a handle on Punisher in modern comics I'd say Garth Ennis' Punisher MAX series is a good way to go.

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2040894)

The Punisher didn't start out in Daredevil. He started out in Spider-Man actually. But basically in season 2 of Daredevil (before season 1 of Punisher) he just shows up, starts massacring gang members and putting them on meat hooks, and it's ****ing brutal as ****. He's actually acting like The ****ing Punisher so you don't see a buildup of him going all Punisher, he just is the Punisher. BTW if you actually want to get a handle on Punisher in modern comics I'd say Garth Ennis' Punisher MAX series is a good way to go.

That's about where I left it after reading a couple articles. Not sure if I'll be grabbing any rags to thumb through, but if I do I appreciate the heads-up.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2040912)

I did like the Punisher and the build up to him

and how dirty he does Daredevil knocking out his goddamn hearing

but yeah I started to find the supporting characters just annoying and whiny and their scenes got repetitive and tedious

where as in the first season at least Foggy was charming and added some comic relief

Karen was arguably the main character of season 2 and pretty great.

She's the one who actually does the leg work to figure things out and is very likeable while Daredevil fights boring ninjas.

It saved the Daredevil part of the season but the best part was always the Punisher half and Karen was the lynch pin of that. She was the one who uncovered everything and she was the one through which the audience related to him.

Hells yes Arrow season 2 is ****ing amazing. Deathstroke is great and the series took itself to the next level. When Arrow was in it's first two seasons it was hands down my favorite series on television. I've only seen up to halfway through season 3 and it didn't seem like it was building on that so much as capitulating to the shipping demands of the fanbase. I don't know anything about how the rest of the series is viewed but the dip in quality of season 3 just felt like jumping the shark from which a series doesn't recover.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2041294)

actually season 3 of Daredevil gets damn good starting right at the point where Murdoch has to fight his way out of Fisk's prison

the camera work in those fights is the best in the whole series thus far

they go at great lengths to set up Bullseye as believable and it's a lot of fun though still it's a goofy villain

Yeah, there are good parts.
And then there are like a hundred long-ass scenes of him sitting around in his ****ing church exchanging the same boring platitudes with priestguy/nungal.
And of course a whole episode centered on Karen's backstory. Because we clearly needed that.

I'm halfway through the Bundy Tapes and it's really well made. I'm too used to documentaries trading provocative content for quality, glad that this one aims for both.

Also lol @ the judge decrying the loss of humanity that Bundy wrought...because he didn't become a lawyer. That's so America.