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rubber soul 04-16-2022 07:13 AM

The diaries also covers his two major relationships as well. I enjoyed the mini-series as well. A very interesting man to be sure.

Lisnaholic 04-16-2022 07:54 AM

I only knew the basics about Andy Warhol, and like you Adidasss, I was expecting the Factory, the transvestites and Velvet Underground to be the main course meal of the series. It was interesting to discover that The Velvets especially were just a brief peripheral element in this guy's life. As you say, rubber soul, a very interesting man.

The actor who reads Andy's words does a great job of bringing him to life, as I imagine him to have been. I particularly enjoyed the trip to Coney Island, but also the later collab with the young graffiti artist. But most of all I like the message that slowly seeps into your soul from Andy's pages: that good or bad, life goes on. After a worrisome day, I find something very soothing about the deadpan recital, the tone of resigned acceptance, that Andy used for his diaries.

For more on AW, this movie isn't as sensationalised as the trailer suggests. Well worth watching if you haven't seen it already:-


jadis 04-16-2022 06:11 PM

Anyone know of any half-decent British (or Nordic or whatever) procedurals on Netflix? If I enjoyed Line of Duty and hated every single Harlan Coben adaptation, then I should like...

Stephen 04-16-2022 11:25 PM

Watching Ghost Wars. Science portal ghost something something.. yeah it’s not very good.

Trollheart 04-17-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2203499)
Anyone know of any half-decent British (or Nordic or whatever) procedurals on Netflix? If I enjoyed Line of Duty and hated every single Harlan Coben adaptation, then I should like...

Have you tried A Touch of Frost? David Jason shines even if it is a little old.
For Nordic, well there are so many. I found La Promesse (The Promise duh) to be pretty exceptional, then there's When the Dust Settles, Cry Wolf, Snow Angels, Angel of Death, Raven... depends on what you're looking for. A similar show to LoD, much older, is Between the Lines, which I found quite good.

jadis 04-17-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2203538)
Have you tried A Touch of Frost? David Jason shines even if it is a little old.
For Nordic, well there are so many. I found La Promesse (The Promise duh) to be pretty exceptional, then there's When the Dust Settles, Cry Wolf, Snow Angels, Angel of Death, Raven... depends on what you're looking for. A similar show to LoD, much older, is Between the Lines, which I found quite good.

Thanks, this is exactly what I needed. Old is not a problem: I love Morse, so will gladly give Frost a go. I mean my favorite show of all time might be The Avengers (Steed and Mrs Peel, nothing to do with the superhero vortex of idiocy), love The Singing Detective, The Young Ones etc etc. But right now I just want some suspense, with enough atmosphere to hook you and not so dumb that it's annoying (which is the problem with your generic netflix show).

One nordic noir I really liked was the first season of Trapped. The second season, less so.

adidasss 04-18-2022 03:09 AM

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Just finished the first (of 3) segments of Jeen-yuhs on Netflix. It was interesting to see that he struggled a lot for the initial break and had to really fight for it. It's watchable because it's before he became a humongous asshole. He's just an awkward kid with braces, hopeful that he will make it but not all that sure about his rapping abilities. It's kind of endearing to see him get approval from established rappers of the era. I guess the next chapters will be much more uncomfortable as we see him evolve from this talented, motivated but awkward and insecure kid into the giant mess we all know him as today. :/

The narration is really annoying though, the intonation is like a kid rehearsing lines for a school play.

adidasss 04-18-2022 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2203550)
Thanks, this is exactly what I needed. Old is not a problem: I love Morse, so will gladly give Frost a go. I mean my favorite show of all time might be The Avengers (Steed and Mrs Peel, nothing to do with the superhero vortex of idiocy), love The Singing Detective, The Young Ones etc etc. But right now I just want some suspense, with enough atmosphere to hook you and not so dumb that it's annoying (which is the problem with your generic netflix show).

One nordic noir I really liked was the first season of Trapped. The second season, less so.

Btw, did you see Bodyguard? Also from Jed Mercurio of LoD. Broadchurch season 1 was excellent.

I remember liking Silent witness when Amanda Burton was in the lead role. It has a million seasons though and not sure what the quality was like after her departure.

Prime suspect with Helen Mirren.

Foyle's war is set during WWII.

Cadfael is set during the middle ages (more mystery than procedural).

I enjoyed The stranger also. Again more mystery than procedural.

jadis 04-18-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2203562)
Btw, did you see Bodyguard? Also from Jed Mercurio of LoD. Broadchurch season 1 was excellent.

I remember liking Silent witness when Amanda Burton was in the lead role. It has a million seasons though and not sure what the quality was like after her departure.

Prime suspect with Helen Mirren.

Foyle's war is set during WWII.

Cadfael is set during the middle ages (more mystery than procedural).

I enjoyed The stranger also. Again more mystery than procedural.

Seen the Bodyguard, I'll watch anything if it has Keeley Hawes. Broadchurch not yet.

Cadfael sounds interesting! What I really need is something like that or Foyle's War but set during the English Civil Wars, the historical period I can't stop reading about these days.

Should watch Prime Suspect, it's often mentioned in the same breath as the outstanding Robbie Coltrane vehicle Cracker.

Mystery is great, for me it's interchangeable with procedurals, either can do the job if the mood is right and it's not too stupid. Will give The Stranger a try, though there's something about this Coben's writing that rubs me the wrong way (the sentimentality maybe?). Someone told me the Korean show The Stranger that's also on Netflix is fantastic.

Thanks.

Started La Promesse, very good show.

Trollheart 04-18-2022 09:04 PM

For the ECW, I believe a very old show called By the Sword Divided is worth watching. I literally watched it when I was at school (so, say 45 years ago or more) and I think it's one of those BBC period dramas. If you haven't seen it, though it's a movie rather than a series, Richard Harris in Cromwell is tremendous viewing. Again, it's old, maybe 1960s/70s.

I tried Cracker and have to say I hated it with a passion. I also was surprised to find that after I thoroughly enjoyed Prime Suspect 1973, the prequel, I truly hated Prime Suspect, my main issue being that when they couldn't prove the guy did it he conveniently and for no good reason at all confessed. Now I know it's La Plante, but that is some damned lazy writing.

Silent Witness only got better as it went on. I've seen all seasons, and I have to say it stands out as one of the few shows where people - and I mean, main characters, top talent - are killed off, and I think this makes it very fresh for me. I'm just going to assume you've seen Hill Street Blues duh, and other than that in terms of police procedurals of course The Wire again duh but The District is pretty cool too (Craig T Nelson from Coach) and there are plenty of true-life dramas such as A Confession (Martin Freeman), Honour, Whitechapel Farm and Lucan, all worth a look.

Can't say I'm with you on Coben, though I've only seen The Five, and thoroughly enjoyed that.


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