Once you get defensive you are guilty.

Nah, I disagree with that actually, Il Duce - taste in music is entirely subjective. This is a music forum, and people here have really varied tastes.

I'm not going to bash his musical tastes, because I know that everyone's different in those regards.

Blaming America for the world's problems, however...that's not really subjective. That's just a refusal to look at facts.

as i said before, I live in an ivory musical tower

how old are you? I know it's stupid to feed trolls but I'm going to do it anyways.

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I had NO idea that America had arenas that were strictly used for two men to fight to their death and for their blood to cover the sand just for the sake of entertainment

This thread has turned into a big xenophobia and ignorance fest.

Right!

ENOUGH trolling The Virgin and others. Any more rubbish and the thread will be closed.

Yes, Madam Boss Lady.

Two months of high school.

Life doesn't end when you've finished high school. You'll still be Jack Pat.
But it's good not to fit in man. There's enough people who fit in.
Boring as hell.

I don't know if you'll find many kids who agree that it's good not to fit in (And the ones who subscribe to the anti-crowd, are still "fitting in"). I think it's mostly a natural inclination to want to identify with a group of other people and be social with them. As far as I'm aware, kids who feel left out and misunderstood are usually not the happiest of the bunch. While most of us can agree that as we get older, we don't really think the same as we did when we were in school, and know that, superficially, it isn't as important, but to a kid in school, it's often a different story. And I think it can dictate the way people view certain things later on.
Socializing is a huge part of who we are as humans. I think it's wise to assume that there are many things that tie into that aspect of ourselves, whether we realize it or not.

I'm just saying that I like people who don't really fit in :)

If that mattered, they'd extract you and spray you into the atmosphere across the world so all the kids in school would suddenly realize what's important...

Well it obviously matters to me :D.

Fortunately, the world is not comprised of s_k clones. That would mean everyone would fit in, and the entire world would be miserable...

It would be one big place full of old cars, nature, and good music.
But a bit boring after a while, yeah.

How can you "love" violence? What about it, specifically, appeals to you? And is it violence in any context, or just certain situations (i.e. the underdog story, David vs. Goliath, etc.)?





And in response to the overall tone of the thread, an education is only as good as the mind that receives it.

Have you seen Il Duce. I mean, put him in any movie with Jackie Chan and he'll steal the show.

it's something like "a fray! a fray! Groo loves a fray!" (that Conan the Barbarian parody comic that Sergio Aragones from MAD drew)

it's violence in the context of a "rumble", a "gangfight"

i think it comes from the Chinese hoods I was mixing around with at youth

i don't have his finesse, either for kung-fu or comedy, and I only have rudimentary martial arts training

i'm more prone towards the inelegant hit-it-where-it-hurts-but-not-seriously-injure type of things

Hahaha, you'll probably kick my ass :D.
Best to stay friendly

So it's a gang mentality? You do realize that you have the ability to make your own decisons, right? I realize that a fight gets everyone's "fight or flight" response going, and everyone wants to assert their position in the group, but loving violence for the sake of loving violence is absurd.

no, it's not even following a leader

it's just different people from different groups disagreeing on something which escalates - it's not really a scenario of the gang leader ordering you to fight another gang - it's something which happens often here

it gets my testesterone flowing but I don't indulge in it too much now - i'm getting old

Seems like a really bright kid.

why do some men blame testoseterone for some of their wild behaviour?

As crude as it sounds, some of the best feelings I've ever had in life were standing over a limp, bloody body, feeling my heart race and my knuckles throb with pain. I'm not saying I go around picking fights, but if someone pushes me to far, walking away isn't always the answer.

I don't think you really understand violence, it's not some crude ancient practice. It's something that has always been, and will always be part of this world. Like it or not, sometimes it's a necessity, like in the OP video in this thread. That kid had two choices, walk away with pride, or without it... and he made the right choice.

Doesn't look like he is blamming anything on testosterone.

^^yeah I just said fighting cause my testesterone to flow, not testesterone was causing the fight

i've never been into a fight before and if i were to choose, i'll just walk away, but kudos to those who can stand up to their oppresors. it's truely admirable and something i know i can never learn.

What type of art do you have basic knowledge in?

that screams low testosterone levels to me :p:

Well said imo. I get that feeling sometimes when I want to get into a fight with someone for the adrenaline rush and sometimes to channel some bent up anger but I refrain from it because it's not completely necessary and there are other ways for me to release my bent up anger so I choose those other methods.

i don't have testoseterones. mine are called ovaries. but seriously, i've never been in a fight, and i don't wish to be involved in one. probably because i carefully handpic my friends. i don't make friends with bully tendencies.

You are so profound. Your posts are always worth reading because of this.

As much as we want to deny we want to get along with others and share our interests with, it's what makes us happy, studies have proven that as a fact. Being purposely alone and anti-social does nothing for your self esteem.

you just have been fortunate in your life so far to not have to come into contact with the certain type of person that will want to fight you regardless of if you did something to them or not.

carefully hand picking friends has nothing to do with anything. I'm not even sure why you mentioned that.

yeah but if you are the type of person that doesn't mind being alone or anti social then it won't affect your self esteem at all.

I used to go around screaming that I don't need friends **** everyone alive. I was born by myself and I will die by myself. I don't need social interaction. I later found out I was wrong about that but that doesn't mean there are people that exist that are able to be happy well adjusted individuals and are able to be alone and live in isolation.

what i meant is that if i surround myself with people (friends) that are respected and has a good reputation in school, chances are i'll never get into trouble as far as being picked on by anyone simply because they know i'm part of a group that's not gonna tolerate bullying. though i've never seen one instance of bullying in my school, i bet it's the reason why nobody came up to me and disrespected me like the one on the video.

You do know just because you have not seen one instance of bullying that doesn't mean it doesn't occur right?

I know what you're saying, but I am meaning full abstinence from human contact socially. I love my alone time too, more often that not really, but without having people to interact with and share interests with (like even how we do over the internet) I would feel very alone and unsure of myself.

If the tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound if nobody is there to hear it?

Ummmmm you do realize fights happen with random people not just friends correct?

Well, there are monks that take vows of silence and I bet they aren't lonely or have low self esteems.



lol basically that's what I was saying.

Yes, of course it does make a sound. That was always one philosical question that I thought was just plain silly. I don't get how people could think otherwise.

Monks are like, very disciplined you realise?

:laughing:

I was being a twat about the tree, it just seemed to fit what you were saying to him.

i agree. but i don't assume things without actual proof. just because American schools have lots of reported cases of bullying, doesn't mean the whole world applies to that case. That's called generalizing.