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James 05-29-2014 11:07 AM

I hardly ever e-read.

bob. 05-29-2014 11:08 AM

hey is that book by Welsh you just read in there?

James 05-29-2014 11:09 AM

Actually Trainspotting and Marabou Stork Nightmares might be on my 'required reading for humanity' list.

Plankton 05-29-2014 11:09 AM

The Art of Peace by Morihei Ueshiba

...and anything by Heinlein, but I'd put Stranger In A Strange Land, or The Door Into Summer on top of that list.

The Batlord 05-29-2014 11:12 AM

^^^

**** yeah on Heinlein. I honestly wonder just what kind of a fruitcake, new age weirdo that guy was, cause some of his philosophy in those books is off the wall.

At the risk of Sansa's mockery I'd put Fight Club up there. Existential despair that even the unliterary can appreciate.

bob. 05-29-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1455032)
^^^

**** yeah on Heinlein. I honestly wonder just what kind of a fruitcake, new age weirdo that guy was, cause some of his philosophy in those books is off the wall.

At the risk of Sansa's mockery I'd put Fight Club up there. Existential despair that even the unliterary can appreciate.

i could never make it through Fight Club

but i would say that Invisible Monsters should be some form of required reading

Frownland 05-29-2014 11:17 AM

Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man
Anthony Burgess's A Clockwork Orange
W.G. Sebald's Rings of Saturn
Shakespeare's Hamlet
James Joyce's Portrait of an Artist As a Young Man

The Batlord 05-29-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1455039)
i could never make it through Fight Club

I couldn't put it down. Usually when a book gives me that kind of dark, misanthropic mood for days on end it's awful, but Fight Club made it delightful.

FRED HALE SR. 05-29-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1455039)
i could never make it through Fight Club

but i would say that Invisible Monsters should be some form of required reading

100% agree with this. Chuck doesn't get much love on the site, but hes decent at what he does.

bob. 05-29-2014 11:36 AM

i think my problem with him is that he just got so damn repetitive....but i love everything through Choke

the only reason i couldn't finish Fight Club is because i saw the movie first and just could not shake those character as they are in the movie

The Batlord 05-29-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1455056)
i think my problem with him is that he just got so damn repetitive....but i love everything through Choke

the only reason i couldn't finish Fight Club is because i saw the movie first and just could not shake those character as they are in the movie

Didn't bother me. The movie was great and I wouldn't want to see the protagonist or Tyler Durden any other way. I still need to read Invisible Monsters though. It's one of a giant mountain of books that's been building up while video games have been ruling my life.

bob. 05-29-2014 11:44 AM

"Birds ate my face"....best line ever

i love the movie....but i have a problem reading when i can't create my own idea of a character...

The Batlord 05-29-2014 11:48 AM

They were just so similar in so many ways that I feel like my own interpretation would've been inferior anyway. No way would the main character's inner monologues have been nearly as good without Edward Norton's voice in my head.

bob. 05-29-2014 11:49 AM

exactly :)

Sansa Stark 05-29-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1455026)
hey is that book by Welsh you just read in there?

not in the main box but I'll move it there now. I forget whether you use mobi or ePub tho

bob. 05-29-2014 11:54 AM

i think you had me get both :)

everything I've used out of there has worked :)

and thank you :love:

Sansa Stark 05-29-2014 11:56 AM

yw :) it's in the Welsh, Irvine folder rn

bob. 05-29-2014 12:00 PM

danke :)

Arya Stark 05-29-2014 01:23 PM

Hated One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and I had to do a project on it. Was so mad

FRED HALE SR. 05-29-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Arya Stark (Post 1455092)
Hated One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and I had to do a project on it. Was so mad

I've never heard that before. Its Kesey's crowning achievement. What did you dislike about it?

Arya Stark 05-29-2014 01:34 PM

I just found it boring, honestly. It dragged for me and didn't keep my interest. I didn't want to read it anymore but had to because of my project. I actually chose the book, because it was a class on American Classics and I hadn't read it before.

FRED HALE SR. 05-29-2014 01:37 PM

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I just found it boring, honestly. It dragged for me and didn't keep my interest. I didn't want to read it anymore but had to because of my project. I actually chose the book, because it was a class on American Classics and I hadn't read it before.

Interesting. I've never encountered anyone who didn't like it so some degree, but apples and orange, tomatoes, tomatos. Certainly an interesting selection for a school project.

Paul Smeenus 05-29-2014 01:42 PM

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Cicatrice 05-29-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1455028)
Actually Trainspotting and Marabou Stork Nightmares might be on my 'required reading for humanity' list.

The first time I tried reading Trainspotting I couldn't get into it at all. It was the first of Welsh's books I'd attempted to read and the whole "accent" thing made it hard for me to get into, hey give be a break I was like 15(?), but once I attempted it a little later I really liked it.

Arya Stark 05-29-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1455100)
Interesting. I've never encountered anyone who didn't like it so some degree, but apples and orange, tomatoes, tomatos. Certainly an interesting selection for a school project.

When I was an education major, I wanted to write a class plan. There's a name for it but I can't remember it for the life of me. Like I made a schedule and activities for the class and what we would do etcetc

hate paper doll 05-29-2014 02:20 PM

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i honestly think that this is exactly what i liked about her writing

hmmm i have never read anything by Hornby or Copeland.....guess i need to remedy that

this one is pointed directly at Junkyard Donner

A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius by Dave Eggers

probably my favorite memoir

Yes! Love Eggers. Running With Scissors is another personal favorite but I don't know if I'd consider it a memoir due to the embellishments Burroughs made, nor would I call it required reading. Dave Eggers > David Sedaris too.



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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1455042)
Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man
Anthony Burgess's A Clockwork Orange
W.G. Sebald's Rings of Saturn
Shakespeare's Hamlet
James Joyce's Portrait of an Artist As a Young Man



A Clockwork Orange, good choice. Ditto for Invisible Man.

I know this choice will be met with derision but The Perks Of Being A Wallflower has to be on there for me. It was the literary equivalent of playing songs on constant repeat as a teenager, I could read it over and over and still be emotionally affected. Same for Bastard Out Of Carolina by Dorothy Allison.

Cicatrice 05-29-2014 02:27 PM

If anyone has any e-Books they want to share, I'm always very appreciative haha.

hate paper doll 05-29-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicatrice (Post 1455119)
If anyone has any e-Books they want to share, I'm always very appreciative haha.


Free ebooks - Project Gutenberg

Project Gutenberg, tons of great reads for free download.

bob. 05-29-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1455101)

American Gods?

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Originally Posted by hate paper doll (Post 1455117)
Yes! Love Eggers. Running With Scissors is another personal favorite but I don't know if I'd consider it a memoir due to the embellishments Burroughs made, nor would I call it required reading. Dave Eggers > David Sedaris too.







A Clockwork Orange, good choice. Ditto for Invisible Man.

I know this choice will be met with derision but The Perks Of Being A Wallflower has to be on there for me. It was the literary equivalent of playing songs on constant repeat as a teenager, I could read it over and over and still be emotionally affected. Same for Bastard Out Of Carolina by Dorothy Allison.

this actually reminds me that i really need to read more books by Eggers....suggestion?

it's weird....for as much that i absolutely love everything Burroughs ever did....i don't think i would call any of his work "required" reading

i have not read The Perks of Being a Wallflower....but i love the movie

hate paper doll 05-29-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1455121)
American Gods?



this actually reminds me that i really need to read more books by Eggers....suggestion?

it's weird....for as much that i absolutely love everything Burroughs ever did....i don't think i would call any of his work "required" reading

i have not read The Perks of Being a Wallflower....but i love the movie


Yeah, I don't think I could put anything by Augusten Burroughs on the list either. I briefly considered Dry but again, great book, not mandatory reading.

As far as more Eggers goes, I really enjoyed Zeitoun - it's about a Syrian immigrant helping to rebuild New Orleans post - Katrina.

bob. 05-29-2014 03:16 PM

^sounds perfert

and a huge DERP on my part....i just assumed the Running with Scissors was some Bill Burroughs book i had never heard of :)

Carpe Mortem 05-29-2014 03:58 PM

Fiction tends to be very preference-based and isn't necessarily good for humanity so... nonfiction all should read:

Carl Sagan- Broca's Brain
Rene Descartes- Discourse on Method and Meditations on First Philosophy
David Hume- An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding
Robert Jay Lifton- The Nazi Doctors
Niccolo Machiavelli- The Prince
Jean-Paul Sartre- Existentialism and Human Emotions

All these will humble you.

Edit: Except The Prince and Nazi Doctors, those will empower and shock you, respectively. You might not want to read them unless you plan on being a heartless dictator-doctor someday.

hate paper doll 05-29-2014 04:06 PM

Nonfiction's definitely a must, excellent choices!

Sansa Stark 05-29-2014 04:13 PM

Stardust >>>>>> all other Gaiman anything. dudes married to an ableist *******

The Batlord 05-30-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1455101)

Whenever I hear about anime fans saying that manga is more mature than American comic books I always first think of Sandman. The creativity of the stories and the art outstrip just about anything I've ever seen come out of Japan.

jackhammer 05-31-2014 06:47 PM

The Consolation of Philosophy - Boethius
The History of the Kings of Britain - Geoffrey of Monmouth
Unloved - Peter Roche
Angela's Ashes - Frank McCourt

FRED HALE SR. 06-02-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1455781)
The Consolation of Philosophy - Boethius
The History of the Kings of Britain - Geoffrey of Monmouth
Unloved - Peter Roche
Angela's Ashes - Frank McCourt


Angela's Ashes was outstanding. What a gut wrenching tale. It was certainly worthy of a pulitzer as well as {Tis} The follow up book. I worked out Crown Books when it came out and it was on the best seller for forever and a day.

Carpe Mortem 06-02-2014 04:05 PM

Reminded me of a fiction that really tugged at the ol' shredded heartstrings.... 'Lovely Bones'

hate paper doll 06-02-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1456351)
Reminded me of a fiction that really tugged at the ol' shredded heartstrings.... 'Lovely Bones'


I really thought I was going to hateit but I was so wrong. The one she wrote about being raped in college is really good too, I think it's called Lucky? I have a weird thing for memoirs.

Carpe Mortem 06-02-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hate paper doll (Post 1456398)
I really thought I was going to hateit but I was so wrong. The one she wrote about being raped in college is really good too, I think it's called Lucky? I have a weird thing for memoirs.

I'll have to check it out, and me too dude.


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