GOD DAMMIT.

I have been moving the past three days. I have missed this entire discussion of my favorite director of all time save for a f*cking post earlier about Fight Club

I suck.

I think the piece itself is made to serve as a beacon celebrating ideas, that one might find worth celebrating. Surely there are certainly a lot of less constructive ideas floating about. There must be meat. One cannot eat bread alone. Or such would be unpleasant without equal.

i saw this movie when i was like 5 or 6 and i thought it was pretty great. i didn't have any deep interpretations of it or anything i just took the story at face value cause i was a kid. then years later i heard that the overlook hotel was symbolism for hell. i guess that is made more clear in the book or something cause i didn't really get that from the movie. or maybe i just don't interpret movies that well. i watched it again when you started talking about it out of curiosity and i can sort of see that idea in retrospect but i still wouldn't pick up on it without someone telling me before hand. but either way i thought the movie was really good just because of how suspenseful and creepy it was at all times. i dunno wtf was wrong with chula and his date in the 80's they were prolly low on coke or some****. i do remember stephen king said he hated the movie cause they ruined his strong female protagonist and turned her into a weak perpetually screaming bitch. and before you get mad at me direct your anger to stephen king instead cause that's what he said in so many words in a an interview i heard on the radio.

Nah, pretty much everyone hated it when it first came out in theaters. The hype leading up to it was immense and the movie just didn't deliver when first seen on the big screen. Like I said, even the critics hated it.

Funny note about Kubrick and King. In the book Jack's VW Bug was red. In the movie Stanley chose yellow as just one small way to show that he wasn't going to be held captive by King's narrative.

And as for King's red bug? Remember the accident that Dick Halloran drives past? :laughing:

http://thelineup.openroadintegrat.ne...red-vw-bug.jpg

'even the critics hated it'

alright. maybe the critics are full of ****, i thought the movie was pretty creepy and suspenseful.

the symbolic battle between the two authors is interesting though, don't get me wrong. i am just surprised that you guys thought the movie was **** back then.

It wasn't just us though. Most people were really disappointed with it. But this was back in the summer of 1980. Friday the 13th was released the same summer and that movie scared the sh*t out of people. The Shining was way too cerebral by comparison.

i guess you had to be there

Ya. People had gotten use to movies that scared the bloody crap out of you.

The Exorcist - 1973
Jaws - 1975
The Omen - 1976
Halloween - 1978
Alien - 1979
Friday the 13th - 1980

The Shining comes along with tons of hype and there's only one stinking death in the whole movie and all these weird visuals and long stretches of pretty tedious stuff. But Kubrick knew what he was doing and that his film would end up being viewed as a total masterpiece. He just didn't want to cater to the masses right out of the gate.

lol its funny cause my mom wouldn't let me watch the exorcist till i was like 13 she said it was too scary, then when i watched it i was really let down by how fake it seemed. but she had no problem with me watching the shining which to me is way scarier than the exorcist.