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interesting. both 10/10 for me. not sure i could pick between them.
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The Shining still manages to surprise me after over a hundred viewings. I agree that ACO is a 10/10 masterpiece, but it's a world that I'm very familiar with.
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I saw 2001 in the theater a couple years ago. I have the film on DVD, and it's one of my favorites, so imagine my joy when my local theater had a two-year program going where they played classic films at matinee shows!
I saw so many classics during that time, including 2001, Enter the Dragon, and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I just wish they'd shown Cool Hand Luke... |
Paths of Glory
Spartacus Dr. Strangelove 2001 Clockwork Orange The Shining All 10/10. |
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Qwertyy is the true 10/10 :beer:
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Why don't you make a better movie then and show everyone up
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shouldn't be that hard right
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2001 > Dr. Strangelove > A Clockwork Orange > The Shining > Eyes Wide Shut > The Killing > Paths Of Glory 9.5-10/10's right there. |
2001 is Kubrick's worst movie. And I'm not particularly a fan of his style to begin with. It's a nearly three hour wank fest that's boring til HAL shows up (most of the stuff with HAL is boring) and become boring again after HAL leaves.
And don't give me some deeper meaning ****. I don't care about some deeper meaning. I watch films for entertainment and it failed to do that. |
Well how can anyone beat that incredibly informed post? Might as well just close the thread now.
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it failed to entertainment
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Full Metal Jacket = 10/10
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What about Lolita tho
Actually I haven't seen that |
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Full Metal Jacket is a great movie. Until they leave bootcamp and go to war and then it sucks. I refer to movies with a great first half and a terrible second half as suffering from "Full Metal Jacket Syndrome" or FMJS for short. I borrow this terminology partially from comedian Patrice O'Neal. Another fine example of a movie suffering from a fatal case of FMJS is Independence Day.
revised top 3 favorite Kubrick movies list: 1. Dr Strangelove 2. Eyes Wide Shut 3. Clockwork Orange I kind of agree with Oriphiel with regard to 2001. Great concept, and some great scenes/visuals, but kind of boring to watch overall. |
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Oh **** JCO namedrop. She's one of my favourites.
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I'm biased with the Shining since it's my favorite movie ever
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The Shining is definitely my favorite horror movie. But I'm not that big on horror movies.
The thing about it is that the modern ones are much more cheap in terms of storyline but they scare me more than The Shining because of the jump scares. And the jump scares are pretty cheap and predictable. But they still give me more of a jolt than The Shining or any other "classic" type horror movie. Where as The Shining is just creepy but not as scary. But much more enjoyable as an actual movie. |
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Seriously: I watched 2001 again last night and I still have no clue what it's about. But for visuals (Jupiter and beyond the infinite) it's hard to beat for a late-sixties movie. I do love it though. Possibly ruined it by writing/releasing 2010. That's one movie that did not need a sequel. |
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One thing to realize is that Kubrick made 2001 to be a cinematic experience. A few fun facts.
1. The height to width aspect ratio of the monoliths are exactly the same as the apect ratios of the cinema screens it was first shown on - only rotated 90 degrees. 2. During its first cinematic run, the movie would start with the screen completely black for about 5 minutes while music played to the audience. And then there was an intermission halfway through, where again, the screen was completely black while music played. During the movie there's two scenes where a monolith "sings" - to the apes on earth, and then the astronauts on the moon, as a way to enlighten them and further their evolution. Notice any parallels? Broken down to it's basics the movie is really easy to understand. - An alien race plants a monolith on earth to help "teach" the apes to utilize tools (the bone) in order to survive and evolve. - They also plant a monolith on the moon, knowning that once the human race had evolved enough from a technological standpoint to discover it, they'd most likely also be at the point of destroying themselves. - The ape throws the bone (tool) into the air and then the movie jump cuts thousands of years into the future and we see a spaceship (tool) orbiting the earth. We then see multiple other spaceships orbiting. If you look closely, each one has a different nation's flag on it. They are all weapons of mass destruction. - After the crew is directed to Jupiter by the moon monolith, Bowman enters the wormhole and is transported to the alien planet. There he's taken care of until he dies, and is then re-incarnated as the Star-Child. The next evolution of the human race. - In the final scene the Star-Child is hovering above the earth. What Kubrick didn't show that the novel explains, is that the first thing the Star-Child does is destroy all of the orbiting spaceships (tools). |
It also lays out human evolution in three clear stages/battles: man versus nature, man versus technology, and man versus himself.
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honestly though what really is 2001 about, and who really gives a shit?
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It's like nobody understands a movie unless Morgan Freeman is narrating it.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 Episode 8 amiright everyone?
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Now it all makes sense. Thanks so much for the ground-level explanation, Chula. Much better than Frown's usual snark and superior attitude. Over thirty years of "huh?" cleared up in one post. Bravo and thanks. :bowdown: Note: When the monolith on the moon sends the radio signal to Jupiter, is it doing that to a) alert the one on Jupiter that Man has achieved space travel and is now ready for the next phase of his evolution or b) to throw "bread crumbs" enticing humans to Jupiter and to their planned destiny? |
I mean, despite the lack of exposition, it is pretty simple and straightforward tbh. I'm biased because I've understood the movie from a young age (don't really remember if I had help or not, probably a combo of conversation with my uncle and my own brain). The transition between ape and man is a pretty loud hint at the themes imo.
And yes the idea is that the signals are pushing humans along. |
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