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The Batlord 04-11-2016 12:48 PM

Star Wars: Rogue One
 
Posted this in the movie hype thread, but since it's Star Wars, it deserves its own thread. Here's the official teaser trailer, which was released on April 7.





Discuss...

Okay, so my big thing is that "Rogue One" implies Rogue Squadron. To anyone who doesn't know what that is, Rogue Squadron were the pilots fighting the AT-AT's at the beginning of Empire Strikes Back. One of the pilots was in Return of the Jedi, but I don't remember if Rogue Squadron itself was ever referenced in the movie, so its presence in the official canon is very minimal.

But for those steeped in the Expanded Universe (which is no longer canon), Rogue Squadron is legendary. It was formed by Luke Skywalker after the Battle of Yavin (the end of A New Hope) but before Empire Strikes Back as the elite X-Wing squadron in the Rebellion. Anyone who isn't nobody will remember them from the Rogue Squadron video game on the N64, they had their own comic series which took place between the first and second movies, and went on to become the heroes of some of the only "good" books from the EU. So they have a storied history that any true Star Wars nerd will be intimately familiar with.

But that is all gone now that the Extended Universe is no longer canon. So if this movie is alluding to what it might be alluding to, then whatever Rogue Squadron is or will be is completely up in the air. I'm betting that one of the characters in the trailer might be Wedge Antilles, who was Luke Skywalker's second-in-command until he left to train with Yoda, after which he was the long-time leader of Rogue Squadron, the second best pilot in all of the Rebellion, and one of the most beloved characters in all the EU. He even had bit parts in all three movies of the original trilogy, so he's still canon.

If this movie is going to have anything to do with Rogue Squadron, then I am stoked, but if I'm being had, then no matter how good this movie turns out to be, I will be at least somewhat disappointed.

Janszoon 04-11-2016 01:03 PM

I heard that Forest Whitaker's character is called Rogue. So that might be the source of the name. Maybe it means he's the person who established the first Rogue Squadron or something. Anyway, I think the movie looks really good.

The Batlord 04-11-2016 01:14 PM

I wouldn't hate that idea, except that Forrest Whitaker's dialogue in the trailer was so lame and forced. They're only a few lines, but they made me wince.

Janszoon 04-11-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1690740)
I wouldn't hate that idea, except that Forrest Whitaker's dialogue in the trailer was so lame and forced. They're only a few lines, but they made me wince.

I thought he looked and sounded great, like some crazy old soldier who's been stranded alone at a forgotten outpost for decades.

The Batlord 04-11-2016 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1690742)
I thought he looked and sounded great, like some crazy old soldier who's been stranded alone at a forgotten outpost for decades.

He's Forrest Whitaker, so I am certainly not counting him out, but his dialogue sounded like awkward, trailer bait. I'm hoping that the rest of his part is better written, cause he's ****ing Forrest Whitaker, and Forrest Whitaker being crazy would be awesome in a more war-focused, non-Jedi Star Wars movie, which is what this looks like.

Oh, and the guy with the space stick kicking ass in the trailer? Donnie Yen. So yeah, Donnie Yen will be kicking ass in a Star Wars movie. That's some ****ing ****.

Kiiii 04-11-2016 01:54 PM

I'm so ****ing excited

The Batlord 04-11-2016 02:00 PM

Dude, I've heard rumors that Darth Vader will be in this movie, and Donnie Yen is fighting stormtroopers in the trailer.

Donnie Yen vs Darth Vader.

djchameleon 04-11-2016 03:21 PM

****, I ****ed at the thought of Wedge Antilles popping up in this movie. I really hope they do some fan service and mention him in some way. I read all of those Rogue Squadron books back in the day.

idk about Darth Vader being in this though. They teased him a little bit with a silhouette but I'm not looking forward to him being in it. They seem to want to focus on that guy in the white cape walking over water and ****.

The Batlord 04-11-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1690768)
****, I ****ed at the thought of Wedge Antilles popping up in this movie. I really hope they do some fan service and mention him in some way. I read all of those Rogue Squadron books back in the day.

Like I said, I think the guy they kept teasing, with the two, green dots on his uniform in the Rebellion might be Wedge.

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idk about Darth Vader being in this though. They teased him a little bit with a silhouette but I'm not looking forward to him being in it. They seem to want to focus on that guy in the white cape walking over water and ****.
The dude with the white cape was in the trailer for all of two seconds. I don't care about making Darth Vader the villain, but just imagine if all these normal humans make it through the movie, barely getting through stromtroopers, doing all sorts of crazy **** to fulfill their impossible mission, in the very last thirty minutes, all of a sudden have to deal with the force of nature that is a Dark Lord of the Sith.

I don't want Vader to be a "character", I just want him to redeem his lameness at the end of Revenge of the Sith by being the ever-loving god damn most badass merciless mother****er ever to be seen in a Star Wars movie.

djchameleon 04-11-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1690771)
I don't care about making Darth Vader the villain, but just imagine if all these normal humans make it through the movie, barely getting through stromtroopers, doing all sorts of crazy **** to fulfill their impossible mission, in the very last thirty minutes, all of a sudden have to deal with the force of nature that is a Dark Lord of the Sith.

I don't want Vader to be a "character", I just want him to redeem his lameness at the end of Revenge of the Sith by being the ever-loving god damn most badass merciless mother****er ever to be seen in a Star Wars movie.

Yeah but the thing is we already know the outcome of this movie and how it's going to finish. They can either go dark and have everyone just end up dying in a showdown like you want to see which I don't think they will. Or they will have them make it out in a last minute ditch and get the plans to Leia just in time.


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