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The Batlord 12-03-2017 04:15 PM

Disney vs. Ghibli
 
Two animation studios which are the cornerstone, not just for the children's cartoons of their respective countries (America and Japan), and not just for children's cartoons for the entire world, but which are synonymous with the absolute best in animation throughout the entire world.

So which is the best, what are their best movies, and just in general nerd out on both. This can just be a thread about talking about both, either, or either vs. either. Let's just nerd out.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-03-2017 04:17 PM

my neighbour totoro is awesome and all but disney obv wins cuz im no weeb

Oriphiel 12-03-2017 04:17 PM

Gainax

MicShazam 12-03-2017 04:22 PM

I liked Chihiro a lot, but otherwise I haven't really fallen under the Ghibli spell, so Disney it is. They've had such a big impact on my life. I really love those old 30's & 40's shorts with Donald Duck, Goofy, Mickey, Chip and Dale, etc. The old Silly Symphonies cartoons as well.

When it comes to Ghibli, there's just so much other anime - both movies and series - that I like vastly more. But Disney's best years place them among the best of Western animation for me.

The Batlord 12-03-2017 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1900654)
my neighbour totoro is awesome and all but disney obv wins cuz im no weeb

Literally taking a ten minute break from watching that movie for the first time right now. But srsly, Spirited Away? Castle in the Sky? I love Disney so ****ing much, but Ghibli actually has things that Disney doesn't and should be acknowledged for it. I suppose they have a greater eye for the details of storytelling, and know how to better craft a tale, whereas Disney have issues with pacing wherein they often have tone shifts that don't quite make sense, and Ghibli's color pallets are, like... they just have the most gorgeous movies ever. They're so colorful and pretty and Jesus Christ. Calling Ghibli anime is almost an insult because it just so happens to be animation from Japan, but if Disney could be a genre, then Ghibli would be Disney and not anime.

But OMG Disney. Like one of my favorite things ever. I'm honestly working on a lot of remembered Disney and a much less amount of Ghibli that I've seen, so it's really hard to compare the two. I have so many amazing memories of the Disney Renaissance and the old school classics, but also memories of the formulaic movies from the mid-90s and on that had the look but not the heart. And not to mention the 70s to late 80s ****fests that blemished Disney's good name.

So it's kind of really hard to decide between the two without kind of diving hard into both studio's filmography. Which I'm kind of doing atm. Or at least I'm diving into a lot of Disney, but Ghibli is very much on the docket. Either way, they're basically both the best things ever combined.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-03-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1900663)
Literally taking a ten minute break from watching that movie for the first time right now. But srsly, Spirited Away? Castle in the Sky? I love Disney so ****ing much, but Ghibli actually has things that Disney doesn't and should be acknowledged for it. I suppose they have a greater eye for the details of storytelling, and know how to better craft a tale, whereas Disney have issues with pacing wherein they often have tone shifts that don't quite make sense, and Ghibli's color pallets are, like... they just have the most gorgeous movies ever. They're so colorful and pretty and Jesus Christ. Calling Ghibli anime is almost an insult because it just so happens to be animation from Japan, but if Disney could be a genre, then Ghibli would be Disney and not anime.

But OMG Disney. Like one of my favorite things ever. I'm honestly working on a lot of remembered Disney and a much less amount of Ghibli that I've seen, so it's really hard to compare the two. I have so many amazing memories of the Disney Renaissance and the old school classics, but also memories of the formulaic movies from the mid-90s and on that had the look but not the heart. And not to mention the 70s to late 80s ****fests that blemished Disney's good name.

So it's kind of really hard to decide between the two without kind of diving hard into both studio's filmography. Which I'm kind of doing atm. Or at least I'm diving into a lot of Disney, but Ghibli is very much on the docket. Either way, they're basically both the best things ever combined.

i forgot about spirited away fair point

Ninetales 12-03-2017 04:53 PM

grave of the fireflies >

The Batlord 12-03-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1900666)
grave of the fireflies >

One movie that I very much absolutely have to watch in the next week no questions or excuses.

MicShazam 12-03-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1900669)
One movie that I very much absolutely have to watch in the next week no questions or excuses.

Like everyone else says: That ending... Ouch. I'm afraid to watch it again, simply because I don't want to feel completely emotionally devastated.

The Batlord 12-03-2017 05:13 PM

And I mean Princess ****ing Mononoke. Jesus. At the very least they're abolutely equal in amazingness. And I seriously have to watch Kiki's Delivery Service the same I have to watch Grave of the Fireflies.

They're simply two studios that are a gift to the entire world.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-03-2017 05:28 PM

what's the point in saying vs. if youre just gonna jerk off both

The Batlord 12-03-2017 05:31 PM

Cause I can't ****ing decide and both their dicks are worth stroking. I'm opening the floor to you losers cause I refuse to weigh in besides giving both studios a sexual hug.

Exo 12-03-2017 05:35 PM

Pixar is part of Disney still right? Or at least, for the sake of this discussion?

Maajo 12-03-2017 06:01 PM

They're totally different artistic directions, or at least it seems that way from what I've seen. Disney started off as a way to showcase symphonic music with their cartoon shorts, and that's always been a main objective for them. I can't say much about Ghibli, I've never seen one of their movies but I'm aware of them and I've been meaning to watch Spirited for quite some time. I like Disney better just because I've always been a fan and used to watch the shorts of their movies all the time and still do from time to time. I love The Sword In The Stone, Rescuers Aladdin, Toy Story and pretty much all of it in between.

I need to check out some of the Ghibli films though.

The Batlord 12-03-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1900733)
They're totally different artistic directions, or at least it seems that way from what I've seen. Disney started off as a way to showcase symphonic music with their cartoon shorts, and that's always been a main objective for them. I can't say much about Ghibli, I've never seen one of their movies but I'm aware of them and I've been meaning to watch Spirited for quite some time. I like Disney better just because I've always been a fan and used to watch the shorts of their movies all the time and still do from time to time. I love The Sword In The Stone, Rescuers Aladdin, Toy Story and pretty much all of it in between.

I need to check out some of the Ghibli films though.

Bro, Ghibli is insanely good, and no matter how much I love Disney, the idea of choosing Disney over Ghibli without even watching Ghibli is like someone deciding to choose to womp their pussy cause you got foot-long fingers even though the other guy has a foot-long tongue.

The Batlord 12-03-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1900699)
Pixar is part of Disney still right? Or at least, for the sake of this discussion?

Not sure. These days yes it is officially part of Disney, but in general... I think it's kind of a thing. But for the purposes of this thread I think we'll call Toy Story Disney Movies cause that's always how they were sold as far as I'm concerned. But otherwise it's probably something that should be researched, cause the two companies have been linked but have most certainly not been synonymous before the last half decade.

Maajo 12-03-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1900751)
Bro, Ghibli is insanely good, and no matter how much I love Disney, the idea of choosing Disney over Ghibli without even watching Ghibli is like someone deciding to choose to womp their pussy cause you got foot-long fingers even though the other guy has a foot-long tongue.

Well, it's a default pick and I can't really offer a comparison at the moment. I'll eventually get around to watching probably Spirited Away at some point just because of how good everyone says it is and because I can probably see it in a theater at some point.

As for the analogy:

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