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Key 06-24-2018 12:02 PM

MB Video Game Classics: The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
 
Vote! I've not played this one a lot but I know it's regarded as one of the best in the series.

Key 06-24-2018 12:06 PM

I can't vote on this one since I've not actually played it for an extended period of time.

MicShazam 06-24-2018 02:16 PM

I played this one a fair bit back in the day on my original Xbox. This game feels so broken, unbalanced and just generally not fun to play at all. I tried so hard to enjoy the game, but the game world is so boring, the game so buggy and the combat so mind bendingly terrible that it was a miserable time through and through. Not as bad as Oblivion, which is probably the dullest RPG I've ever played (and that's saying something).

People really like this game and I don't really see the magic. I played the hell out of Arena and Daggerfall, though :D

Oriphiel 06-24-2018 04:19 PM

A sort of mirror-game that dull people find dull, interesting people find interesting, and crazy people find crazy.

A dangerous world with a rich and bizarre culture. A goddess of possibly selfless nobility or possibly spiteful bloody vengeance, leading a brave champion to fight an immortal outcast who may be either a wronged friend or a villain, ultimately killing the heroes that saved and strengthened your homeland in a past life, and destroying your people through your actions in ways you couldn't have seen. Endless spells to create, super potions to brew, limitless possibilities of pushing every piece of the game in as many ways as you can imagine. And that's before you start playing with mods.

10/10

The Batlord 06-24-2018 04:43 PM

As a sneak archer Morrowind unmodded is incredibly disappointing. No crouch toggle? **** off. That's like all I do in those games.

Oriphiel 06-24-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1965734)
As a sneak archer Morrowind unmodded is incredibly disappointing. No crouch toggle? **** off. That's like all I do in those games.

Morrowind has a sneak/crouch toggle. At least, the Xbox GOTY version I played back in the day did.

And, come on, man. Killing the dancer lady and her invisible archer bro outside of Gnisis and using his amulet to basically become Predator was the best.

The Batlord 06-24-2018 07:01 PM

I have that same version and it does not. I think you were playing it on PC.

Oriphiel 06-24-2018 07:06 PM

Nope, it definitely does. Double click and hold down the left stick (can't remember if that was the default or my remap). It just takes awhile to get used to, 'cause you have to do it just the right way.

The Batlord 06-24-2018 07:07 PM

I don't want to hold down the ****ing left stick.

Oriphiel 06-24-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1965760)
I don't want to hold down the ****ing left stick.

Dude. Double click, hold it down for a second, then let go. Boom, toggled.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...ition/42760389

The Batlord 06-24-2018 07:11 PM

The ****, I looked that up months ago and all I got was links to mods.

Key 06-25-2018 08:36 AM

^I think Oblivion is better than any other Elder Scrolls game. That's just my own opinion though.

Ninetales 06-25-2018 09:43 AM

this was the first video game I ever bought for myself and it's continued to be my favorite game and the one ive sunk the most time into by far.

personally I think its story is far more interesting than the newer scrolls games and what it lacks in polish (fighting mechanics, graphics, npc standing still all the time, etc) it makes up for in immersion and personality. this could be a combo of nostalgia and personal preference, but the wildly diverse landscapes and factions are better here. it also does smaller things like no fast travel (and by extension a very well worked travelling system), enemies not leveling with you, an infinite amount of spells and magic (levitating, water walking, jump etc that aren't present in later games always irks me plus enchanting is one of the best parts of morrowind), mortal npcs, amongst others that add up to a much better experience as well.

on top of that axes aren't blunt weapons ffs and where the fuck have the spears gone

Ninetales 06-25-2018 11:27 AM

starting out in morrowind can actually be super frustrating for that reason too. the dice roll combat system looks clumsy as hell when youre missing 90% of sword swings but damn if it doesn't feel great once youre dummying everyone that fucked you up in the earlier stages

MicShazam 06-26-2018 12:01 AM

That's one of the things I hated about it. Your character just feels like the most useless, geriatric old senile idiot at the start of the game. Your walking speed starts out ridiculously low as well. I also don't like the way the skill improvement system works. The game felt really grindy and boring to me. I really need an RPG to have a decent combat system before I can care.

The Batlord 06-26-2018 02:45 AM

In other words you require game mechanics to make up for your inability to immerse yourself.

MicShazam 06-26-2018 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1966280)
In other words you require game mechanics to make up for your inability to immerse yourself.

It's a game. It expects me to engage in the use of all sorts of combat mechanics, spell mechanics, etc. etc. , so I'd like those things to be fun to play around with. Nothing breaks immersion quite like getting stuck in a piece of terrain while being attacked by annoying winged creatures that refuse to be hit by more than every 17th blow.

Dragon's Dogma was a perfectly immersive RPG experience for me. I loved the environments and everything was just exciting and well crafted. Some of the most intense RPG missions I've ever played. Loved the forest areas and dark dungeons especially much.

Ninetales 06-26-2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1966263)
Your character just feels like the most useless, geriatric old senile idiot at the start of the game. Your walking speed starts out ridiculously low as well.

yeah but I think that's also the point. Youre not some unkillable god character at the beginning so its a much better frame of reference for when you eventually become that. It's a slow process but imo the right call for a game like this


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