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Frownland 10-05-2015 12:05 PM

Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante

Hope you love The Body as much as I do.

Trollheart 10-05-2015 01:44 PM

I guess the economic downturn is biting everyone, even Batty! Well, if he will spend all his hard-earned on that complete boxed Batman Collectors' Edition .... Looks like the old Torture Chamber has had to undergo something of a downsizing. Just a soundproof booth now, as I enter and put the headphones on. Pity: I kind of miss the drip-drip-drip of the stagnant water in the background, forming almost a counterpoint to the music I had to suffer through, the darkness, the dank air, the distant, vague sounds of screams, the clump-clump as Batty heaved his belly down the stairs, limping down to gloat over me... Ah, good times, good times!

So this is it for 2015, is it? Can't say I'm too impressed, though I can see the financial viability of what he's done. Accountant said “You have a choice: cut out the comic books or get rid of all but the most necessary accoutrements for your Torture Chamber”. Guess he went for the latter: gotta have your priorities sorted, right? Still, it's a poor shadow of the original version of
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(Due to downsizing, some differences may exist between the Torture Chamber you find yourself in and the one shown above --- The Batlord, 2015)
Well then, no magical spell for turning me into a woman at least. That's something to be thankful for I guess. He may find it a little harder to break me than last year though, as I've been exposing myself (ooer!) to rather a lot of black, experimental, doom and other types of perhaps what I would at least consider more extreme metal over the last year, and have yet to be affected by anything bar one, of which more later in the month. But right now it seems like the first album he's going to try to batter me with is up, and oh! If I look up I see a videoscreen flickering into life, with all the relevant informtation on the band, lyrics and background.

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Asgardsrei --- Absurd --- 1999

So, a neo-Nazi band eh? Well he's obviously attacking my girlish sensibilities vis a vis ethics here, as I made no bones of the fact that I had a problem with Mayhem and their practices, and indeed Varg too, but he may find my position has changed and my resolve hardened slightly (again, ooer!) so that it may not be as big a jolt as he expects it to be. Or it may cause me to shit myself, I don't know. Let's find out huh?

The album, more an EP I read, has at least only five tracks, though one is ten minutes long. Then again, there are two instrumentals. Hmm. Well, the music, such as it is, is beginning to filter through now, so what do I think? Right, well the first track is a march obviously, dark and menacing, and without the neo-Nazi background would sound to me like a sort of Viking, dramatic, climactic thing, but since we're talking about ol' Adolf's adherents here I assume it's the preface to a Nazi assault, as it were. Decent music though, nothing wrong with it. Mind you, we've not yet got to any lyrics. Well that's interesting: the lyrics are in German. No clue what they mean then, but I assume the words jew, communist and probably fag appear there more than once. Pretty good really; powerful chugging beat, vocals are rasped but I've heard so much worse.

This is the title track incidentally, and I have to be honest, I'm actually sort of digging it. Yes, it's unsettling to think of the sort of things they're probably singing about, but not knowing German saves me from that, and anyway even if the lyrics were in English I can guess what they'd be about. Now we get a declamatory announcement before another sort of traditional metal melody with a snarled vocal that tries to be scary but just fails to incite any fear in me anyway. This is called “Als die alten, Jung noch waren”, and your guess is as good as mine as to what that means. Pretty sweet beat really, rocks along in a slow kind of grind, very catchy. “Crux gammata” is okay too; the loud neo-Nazi shouting over the music is pretty dumb really, though again I guess if you knew what he was saying it might make more of an impact on you. “Tod von sonnenaufgang” starts with what may be supposed to represent someone getting murdered, but it just sounds silly, then it's a fast headbanger but not much else.

As for upsetting me?
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I think I can translate this: “Leben ist krieg, krieg ist leben” looks like “Love is war, war is love”? Anyway it's an instrumental with a strong Germanic slant, quite nice actually. Are there keys in there? Must be. Ah yes, thanks to the hilariously-named Rob Darken! :laughing: The next one is an easy translation too: “Germanien uber alles” --- anyone? The chant is sidesplitting, but the guitar groove is pretty sweet. Song's a little long at over eleven minutes when not all that much happens, but I've heard worse.
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Okay, so this remastered and expanded version has nine tracks instead of five, but I'm still not impressed. The longer ones are more boring than annoying, and “Fur Germanien” (again, anyone?) opens with another Nazi recording, rant or announcement but then descends into a fairly standard metal rocker. Interestingly, and perhaps not surprisingly, I'm reminded of “Waiting for the worms” off The Wall in certain parts. Oh this guy tries so hard to be scary but I've listened to things that would curl your hair, and this does not even come close. Ah, it's over, and we're into the final track, which again is a long one, just over ten minutes, and begins with some spacey guitar and a deep breathing voice, stirring Germanic music, almost Wagnerian, building slowly. Actually, this is the first track that I've really liked. I mean, none of the rest has bothered me in the slightest, but it's not something I'd listen to again. This, I very well might.

TRACKLISTING

1. Intro: March zur neuen kunst
2. Asgardsrei
3. Als die alten Jung noch waren
4. Crux gammata
5. Tod vor sonnenaufgang
6. Leben ist krieg, krieg ist leben
7. Germanien uber alles
8. Fur Germanien
9. Sonnenritter

Sorry Batty; I know this is only attempt one, and you probably want to ease me into it, but man that was super weak! Hope you've got something a bit more challenging lined up for the next three slots!
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TechnicLePanther 10-05-2015 02:25 PM

I wouldn't call Disco Volante metal though. If you've never heard their S/T, I would go for that instead.

Trollheart 10-05-2015 02:33 PM

OK so I have Ulver from your original list, which, though I did review it earlier for the ABM section, was at the time eligible, so I calculate that leaves me with two more (The Body and Mr Bungle) and then your top ten will be complete (with the final three still to do of course) with just one album, Ulver, not having been reviewed due to circumstances beyond my control. Does that sound right to you?

If so, then I'll make the final section your five last albums, with the original top three still unchanged, but will advise where in the lineup the other two come.

Frownland 10-05-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther (Post 1640251)
I wouldn't call Disco Volante metal though. If you've never heard their S/T, I would go for that instead.

It has enough metal elements and I've seen it on enough "best of avant-garde metal" lists for me to include it. I was considering going the route you mentioned for the same reasons, but I decided to go for the better album in the end.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1640252)
OK so I have Ulver from your original list, which, though I did review it earlier for the ABM section, was at the time eligible, so I calculate that leaves me with two more (The Body and Mr Bungle) and then your top ten will be complete (with the final three still to do of course) with just one album, Ulver, not having been reviewed due to circumstances beyond my control. Does that sound right to you?

If so, then I'll make the final section your five last albums, with the original top three still unchanged, but will advise where in the lineup the other two come.

That's fine.

Anteater 10-05-2015 03:40 PM

Will you be doing any real recent metal releases, like a "Hot Off The Press" kinda thing? :D

grindy 10-05-2015 03:51 PM

1. Intro: Marsch zur neuen kunst = march to a new art
2. Asgardsrei - Wild Hunt (it's an european myth)
3. Als die alten Jung noch waren = when the old were still young
4. Crux gammata
5. Tod vor sonnenaufgang = death before sunrise
6. Leben ist krieg, krieg ist leben = Life is war, war is life
7. Germanien uber alles = Germania over everything
8. Fur Germanien = For Germaniia
9. Sonnenritter = Sun-Knight

TechnicLePanther 10-05-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1640268)
It has enough metal elements and I've seen it on enough "best of avant-garde metal" lists for me to include it. I was considering going the route you mentioned for the same reasons, but I decided to go for the worse album in the end.

I don't want to start a war, but I had to put it here. I know it's your list, so I won't complain any more. Maybe I'll submit a little something for Troll next year.

The Batlord 10-05-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1640239)
Sorry Batty; I know this is only attempt one, and you probably want to ease me into it, but man that was super weak! Hope you've got something a bit more challenging lined up for the next three slots!
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Meh, I just wanted to make you listen to "Crux Gammata", which is just an instrumental set to a Hitler speech, but of course you didn't even get that. I also figured you'd do a little more legwork with the band bio, which would hopefully have caused a little more of your faith in humankind to shrivel up and die.

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The band achieved infamy because its original members (now no longer in the band since 1999) murdered the 15-year-old Sandro Beyer in 1993. The canonical motive is that Beyer was privy to an illicit relationship of Schauseil's with a married woman, and had been spreading rumours about this and other activities of the band.[6] On 29 April in Sondershausen, the then 17-year old band members Möbus, Schauseil, and Kirchner enticed Beyer to a meeting, and strangled him there with an electrical cord.
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The tape Thuringian Pagan Madness shows on its cover the grave of the murdered Sandro Beyer, and inside says: "The cover shows the grave of Sandro B. murdered by horde ABSURD on 29.04.93 AB".
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The band members were released on parole in 1998, because they had been under eighteen when they had committed their crime. Shortly after release, Möbus violated the terms of his parole when at a concert he performed the Hitler salute, which is illegal in Germany. His parole was consequently revoked.
The last three albums were always the ones that I believed in anyway. Have fun with Burn the Priest!

P.S. That Naked City album was actually the first album on my list until I realized that Frownland had already used it.

Trollheart 10-05-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther (Post 1640251)
I wouldn't call Disco Volante metal though. If you've never heard their S/T, I would go for that instead.

Well it's his list so whatever he chooses...
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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1640285)
Will you be doing any real recent metal releases, like a "Hot Off The Press" kinda thing? :D

Already doing that, with the "Freshly Forged in '15" section. Going month by month, currently up to Feb. Good to see ya by the way mate! :thumb:
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1640291)
1. Intro: Marsch zur neuen kunst = march to a new art
2. Asgardsrei - Wild Hunt (it's an european myth)
3. Als die alten Jung noch waren = when the old were still young
4. Crux gammata
5. Tod vor sonnenaufgang = death before sunrise
6. Leben ist krieg, krieg ist leben = Life is war, war is life
7. Germanien uber alles = Germania over everything
8. Fur Germanien = For Germaniia
9. Sonnenritter = Sun-Knight

Thanks for that! :thumb:
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1640323)
Meh, I just wanted to make you listen to "Crux Gammata", which is just an instrumental set to a Hitler speech, but of course you didn't even get that. I also figured you'd do a little more legwork with the band bio, which would hopefully have caused a little more of your faith in humankind to shrivel up and die.

I did read about them. I guess I've just learned not to be so emotionally involved as I used to be. Also, what self-respecting neo-Nazi (surely an oxymoron?) wouldn't kill a fifteen-year old kid? It's probably part of the initiation rites! :rolleyes:
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The last three albums were always the ones that I believed in anyway. Have fun with Burn the Priest!
Yeah I guessed as much but, you know, little victories...
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P.S. That Naked City album was actually the first album on my list until I realized that Frownland had already used it.
That would definitely have worked. Pity he got there first. Or at all.


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