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butthead aka 216 07-24-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1348988)
This looks interesting, I'll keep an eye on it.
Btw, by the "third wave", do you mean mainstream bands like My Chemical Romance and Dashboard Confessional or underground revivalist bands like Empire! Empire! (I Was a Lonely Estate) and Tigers Jaw?

i have actually not heard of empire empire or tigers jaw. when i think about 3rd wave emo i think of::: jimmy eat world, taking back sunday, dashnoard confessional the most. always a lot of controversy over genres ((although i dont feel its that important)) over bands like new found glory, alkaline trio, brand new, straylight run, armor for sleep, saves the day, the used, etc etc etc.

so yes i guess i am talkin about mainstream stuff although most would consider a lot of those bands to be pop-punk or.....something else. i think emo died after the 2nd wave and i dont really know what to group the bands i just listed as.

but i did see a lot of shows as a teenager and saw the majority of those bands listed live. i went years without revisiting any of it cause i thought it was real lame. then i listened and thought ''oh wow how nostalgic'' but i actually think i genuinely just like some of it, especially a lot of taking back sundays first 3 albums, brand news first 3 albums, andthe used's 1st 2 albums. all the lyrics seem cheesier and a bit lamer but i still fins myself singin along.

i am open to listening to these revival bands you speak of though. just hit me with suggestions if you have anymore.




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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant (Post 1349044)
It's been a while since I've truly spent a prolonged period listening to second wave emo or really anything from the midwest scene in an abundance.
Briks reminded me of Sunny Day Real Estate earlier today and I'm going to get onto the albums I don't own by them.

I think the thing I find most common about emo music to me at least is how when you get into it, you really get into it. I have EP's and LP's from bands that released one record and faded into obscurity (I know this was quite common) but after a while you just seem to forget about emo's existence. Likely because there isn't a prominent scene any more so the lack of new music causes it to lose relevance and slip under the radar.
But, I'll make it my mission to go through and re listen to the records I've not visited in some time.

The way I see it, as long as you're < 25, you'll still get something out of emo music before you're too old to understand it any more.


emo got commercialized and i think that changed it a lot. just like grunge was changed, just like nu metal to an extent, etc. i feel like in others genres you can take todays music and compare it other music of the same genre from 20 yrs ago and you can at least trace a path from where it started to where it is now. i think it's harder to do that with emo. i really dont hear the similarities in anything when i listen to 3rd wave then listen to 1st wave stuff.

anticipation 07-24-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1348974)
Wow, what a close-minded, arrogant post.

I listened to the links of those Jets to Brazil songs and liked them a lot. I'm getting that album right now.

I've been getting into emo stuff a lot lately so I'll be following this thread.

i was a driving force behind this forum having any sort of emo/screamo discussion, and in those days you would be hung drawn and quartered for bringing this sort of faux-pop punk bull**** into an "emo" discussion. For some of us it's true skramz or no skramz at all. After all, what is emo without elitism?

Isbjørn 07-26-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 216 (Post 1349175)
i have actually not heard of empire empire or tigers jaw. when i think about 3rd wave emo i think of::: jimmy eat world, taking back sunday, dashnoard confessional the most. always a lot of controversy over genres ((although i dont feel its that important)) over bands like new found glory, alkaline trio, brand new, straylight run, armor for sleep, saves the day, the used, etc etc etc.

so yes i guess i am talkin about mainstream stuff although most would consider a lot of those bands to be pop-punk or.....something else. i think emo died after the 2nd wave and i dont really know what to group the bands i just listed as.

but i did see a lot of shows as a teenager and saw the majority of those bands listed live. i went years without revisiting any of it cause i thought it was real lame. then i listened and thought ''oh wow how nostalgic'' but i actually think i genuinely just like some of it, especially a lot of taking back sundays first 3 albums, brand news first 3 albums, andthe used's 1st 2 albums. all the lyrics seem cheesier and a bit lamer but i still fins myself singin along.

i am open to listening to these revival bands you speak of though. just hit me with suggestions if you have anymore.







emo got commercialized and i think that changed it a lot. just like grunge was changed, just like nu metal to an extent, etc. i feel like in others genres you can take todays music and compare it other music of the same genre from 20 yrs ago and you can at least trace a path from where it started to where it is now. i think it's harder to do that with emo. i really dont hear the similarities in anything when i listen to 3rd wave then listen to 1st wave stuff.

I think Jimmy Eat World belongs to the second wave (Static Prevails and Clarity albums), and changed into alterna-rock with Bleed American. I think Saves The Day is alright, I like some of their songs from the Through Being Cool album, but I'd avoid the other bands if I were you.They'll mess up your idea of what emo is. Or at least they did to me. Maybe not Brand New, I don't know.

butthead aka 216 07-28-2013 11:21 PM

this week i am gonna review Knapsack. i listened to jets to brazil - orange rhyming dictionary and i change my rating to 1 point lower. after i listened again it started bothering me how the last song, Sweet avenue, is so seemingly out of place. its a nice ending track but i feel like theres no gradual build up to that type of song. its like goin from dark depressive to lovely too quickly for me

Isbjørn 07-30-2013 12:15 PM

I heard The Power of Failing by Mineral should be pretty good. I've heard some of it, and if the rest of it is like what I've heard so far, then it is reviewable. You should check it out :)


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