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Engine 10-18-2013 03:32 AM

Heavy Music
 
Welcome to a journal of heavy music.

Why? Because I am tired of reading about crappy, effete heavy music on this Web site. The imbalance ends now.

Attributes of the music this journal deals with:
1) heavy
2) good

What this journal is not:
1) a joke. Heavy music is serious. If you are not damaged deep inside stop reading now. Just kidding:) (I'm serious about the seriousness and the damage though :nono:)
2) democratic. I don't give a fuck what you think about what I say. Comment if you feel like it, at your own risk of humiliation.
3) planned. I give no shit about genre classifications or order of any kind. This journal reflects whatever pops into my mind whenever the thoughts pop. I know my History so don't bother arguing about things like who, what, where, when, and why.

Let's go

SIEGE


Siege were a band of teenagers from Massachusetts who played hardcore punk in the mid 1980s but they were unique. They didn't live in Boston and were not part of the typical Boston HC scene. They influenced many future bands who played extreme music.

The influence of Siege was far reaching in both time and space. Soon, a band from Birmingham, England called Napalm Death cited Siege as an influence. Napalm Death was a metal band deemed grindcore and they thought they were the heaviest shit around. They were probably right for a while and got quite famous. By 1990 they began making markedly slower and longer songs than they had before, such as this one..


When Siege were in high school, they performed at a Battle of the Bands, which is a contest among high school bands that is organized by the actual high school the bands attended, and the bands performed at their school. Possibly an 80s/90s-American-only thing. I don't know. When Siege played their set the bassist smashed his instrument at the end, which obligated the school administration to disqualify them. I imagine their set sounded something like this performance that was filmed for public access TV. In mid-80s America, public access television was the closest thing to the internet in that it's stations broadcast to the public without restrictions.


Trollheart 10-18-2013 02:39 PM

Welcome back Engine! Good to see you writing again! :thumb:

Engine 10-18-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1375020)
Welcome back Engine! Good to see you writing again! :thumb:

Thanks!

now on to
HEAVY METAL HIPPIES

Part 1


Not musicians that are from the actual hippie era and are sometimes regarded as heavy metal. Rather, actual purveyors of extreme music who embrace hippie ethos in the pejorative sense. Heavy musicians who are vegetarian/vegan, or environmentalists, or embrace some kind of mystical beliefs. Stuff like that. These people are peppered throughout the world of heavy music.

Now, many people who make music of every sort make the decision to become vegetarian. On the surface that may seem antithetical to metal but it's really not. For instance, it's pretty common in the death/grind scene and has been for many years. Bands like Carcass are outspoken about it and it makes a lot of sense when you think about it because they are obsessed with gore, rotting flesh, and disembowelment - common themes of death metal. These things are glorified and are disgusting and... why would you want to eat stuff like that?

Here is a song they recently made about a tool for killing livestock


Naturally, younger bands have run with the idea. Cattle Decapitation like to equate human murder with the killing of animals for food. This video for their song called "A Body Farm" makes their point crystal clear.


And some of their peers love animals so much that they prefer to use their pets as vocalists than to do their own growling. Caninus is a band that was fronted by their two pit bulls..


So, yes, it's kind of a scene thing in death/grind to rail against meat and for animal rights. But other seemingly unlikely suspects are also animal lovers. Everybody's favorite gay black metal vocalist, Gaahl, is a vegetarian or possibly vegan, he doesn't go on about it in the press and generally doesn't share his lyrics.


Again, this is not really strange considering that many black metal musicians do what they do in order to completely reject modern Judeo-Christian society, and everything that it stands for. Giving up meat is a good way to say Fuck You, You Are Wrong. After all, meat is generally considered good and wholesome but is mostly derived from cruelty and arrogant disregard for life. Those are things that many sensitive black metallists refuse to abide. This is serious business, not to be made fun of, but this Black Metal Vegan Pad Thai recipe is too precious to keep to myself..


Anteater 10-18-2013 10:50 PM

If I were a heavy metal hippie, I'd probably be satisfied simply doing blastbeat-riddled interpretations of the Grateful Dead's catalogue....but whateverz, Cattle Decapitation and Carcass are all we need! \m/

Also, are you aware that there is a great metal band out there named after you hombre? :p:


The Batlord 10-19-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1375103)
So, yes, it's kind of a scene thing in death/grind to rail against meat and for animal rights. But other seemingly unlikely suspects are also animal lovers. Everybody's favorite gay black metal vocalist, Gaahl, is a vegetarian or possibly vegan, he doesn't go on about it in the press and generally doesn't share his lyrics.


Gaahl's gay? I'm sure that went up a storm in the Norwegian black metal scene. Even if a lot of their right wing crap is just a pose I imagine that a gay musician isn't going to get much love up there.

And great thread BTW.

Engine 10-20-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1375277)
Gaahl's gay? I'm sure that went up a storm in the Norwegian black metal scene. Even if a lot of their right wing crap is just a pose I imagine that a gay musician isn't going to get much love up there.

And great thread BTW.

Thank you, sir. And, yes, Gaahl is homosexual. He also bankrolled a line of women's clothing and had a romantic relationship with his collaborator, Dan DeVero.


I'm not sure how this effected his black metal cred. I've read some hate on the internet but well.. it's the internet. Gaahl's own thoughts on the matter are predictably laconic.


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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1375120)
are you aware that there is a great metal band out there named after you hombre? :p:

No, I was not aware of that band. It's not really my cup of tea but I see that Armored Saint's bassist is involved so that's cool. And this is probably a good time to add that the thrust of this journal will not always be extreme music that is widely considered unlistenable (although I do expect it will mostly be that). For instance I like early Armored Saint. To me they fit my criteria (heavy/good).

ARE YOU IN THE MOOD FOR SOME CRAZINESS TONIGHT?!


The Batlord 10-21-2013 08:26 AM

Armored Saint and black metal? Why? Just why? :laughing:

Isbjørn 10-23-2013 09:08 AM

This journal, me like.

Engine 11-07-2013 08:04 PM


Just kidding. I absolutely despise writers who address their supposed audience as "dear reader" - like Mister Nabokov up there, the master of arrogant blah blah. I assume that anyone who ever says Dear Reader at the beginning of a sentence must look like that.

Anyway, I'm about to talk briefly about one of my favorite heavy bands. This one is called Mare, now sadly disbanded. While you read the few words I will write about them about them, listen to this song


That, to me, is heavy. I view heavy music as cathartic expressions of intense emotions - typically the most detrimental ones. Fear, Hatred, Isolation, Greed, Love, Despair.. stuff like that

This band Mare was heavy. Nobody I know likes them. Not because they were *too* heavy of course but for reasons that nobody has told me. Not even the old time Hydra Head heads that I associate with like them. The band disappeared maybe due to lack of interest. This is a mystery to me. I used to despair over why they didn't make big waves but I've become used to it. Like all the human emotions, it passed.

I do wish they had made more music before disbanding but now Mare is just the name of an old band on a badge I wear, and I will die singing their praise.

mare

Primeval Scum 11-21-2013 04:20 AM

This journal is great. I love me some heavy music + witty writing.

Engine 11-23-2013 04:26 AM

HEAVY METAL HIPPIES

Part 2: The ENVIRONMENT


In my last installation of Heavy Metal Hippies I attempted to explain why vegetarian/veganism is a normal thing in Black Metal because that music is all about hating humanity and loving the things that humanity kills and disregards. So it's only natural that Black Metal takes up the cause of environmentalism.


The above picture depicts a member of Wolves in the Throne Room who are well-known hippies. Much has already been said about this idea so I now refer you to a blog post called Environ-Metal: Where green is the new black, the name of which I swear I did not intentionally rip off. But rather than blather on endlessly about BM bands that are hippie environmentalists, I suggest you read that little blog post. If you are unwilling to read that much, a short recap is basically that Scandinavian bands pioneered the idea with songs like "Into the Mighty Forest" by Satyricon. And, as tends to happen, subsequent metal bands took up the cause with more intensity.

My personal musical taste has gravitated me closer to the USBM hippies like Agalloch (Oregon) and Panopticon (Kentucky). Here's some of their stuff:

Here's a nice little Agalloch tune called 'Our Fortress is Burning...II - Bloodbirds' from their Ashes Against the Grain album. It's lyrics don't begin until halfway through the song and they aren't nearly as overtly environmental as some of their others but you get the point.


The god of man is a failure.
Our fortress is burning against
the grain of the shattered sky.

Charred birds escape from the
ruins and return as cascading blood.

Dying bloodbirds pooling,
Feeding the flood.
The god of man is a failure.

And all of our shadows...
All of our shadows...
All of our shadows...
Are ashes against the grain.

When I think about metal environmentalism I like to imagine eco-terrorists who bomb ski lodges and put huge nails in trees so that loggers will have their chainsaws backfire on them. Now that's metal. But, like all good environmentalists, Agalloch are against this sort of extreme activism. Here is a Q/A quote from an interview making them sound like the peace-loving hippies that they are:

Are you warning against abuse of the Earth - perhaps there's a closest Greenpeace activist within you?
JWW: You don't have to be a member of Greenpeace to admire nature. On the whole, I can't stand those activist groups, they repeatedly do unnatural things in the name of nature.
Haughm: In Oregon a couple years ago, we were having a lot of problems with 'eco-terrorists'. These fanatical environmentalists would do things like burn down SUV dealerships and logging sites in an attempt to make a statement. Though their hearts are in the right place, their actions did absolutely no good and just put a stigma on environmentally conscious people. Actually, It's quite similar to the Norwegian church arsons of the early 90's...



Panopticon is a band that now lives in Kentucky and they recently released an album appropriately title 'Kentucky' that deals with the atrocity of strip mining the Appalachian mountains for coal. Like all hippies should, they bemoan both the environmental effects of blowing off mountaintops with dynamite and the detrimental conditions to which miners are subjected.

In case anyone doesn't know or remember, there was a major explosion due to questionable mining practices at Upper Big Branch mine in West Virginia in 2010 where 29 miners died.


And it's good to remember why we need this coal. Very few people care, but Panopticon do. Hippies!


These things drive Panopticon to write songs like this one, which I love:



That's probably enough heart bleeding for now but remember, fuck people and their endless appetite for non-renewable natural resources. Peace

Engine 12-07-2013 08:26 PM

Heavy Doom


I've been off of drugs for quite a while and along with them went the sub-genre of Doom Metal, which used to be one of my favorite things. But I still get cravings and I've found myself riding that old doom dick again lately. That said, I'm a little bit over the classic stoner doom sound and find myself going for the heavier sub-sub genres. Funeral Black Death Doom seems to be what I'm looking for but I have no time for genre classification, especially as there about as many Doom sub-genres as there are Nicolas Cage films so I'm not going to quibble over that.

Being off the demon weed, I don't find myself listening to Electric Wizard much anymore, or any of the hundreds of Doom bands who sound exactly like them (groovy, bass-heavy, slow, etc). However, I do still occasionally appreciate that sound. I really like the new Cough/Windhand split for instance. The music is pretty great and the cover art is beautiful. I'm always a sucker for images of a human with the head of a goat.


But I'm after the heavier stuff really. Probably my favorite Doom band right now is Wormphlegm, a band from Finland. I love their combination of evil vocals, standard rock-n-roll instrumentation, and extremely slow pacing. Their 'Tomb of the Ancient King' album is a masterpiece.


I'm hoping to add more installations of Heavy Doom and, although this journal hates democracy, I would like to hear suggestions if you have any. I can always spend a few hours on Encyclopaedia Mettallum looking for more but I will appreciate this community's suggestions because there are only so many hours in a day. And I like to spend my time doing the things that this music accompanies nicely: taking long walks, bike rides along the river, and doing yoga. Namaste


Engine 12-17-2013 03:51 AM

more Heavy Doom


I've been down in the doomhole for so long now that I think I need to put my sanity first. But before I leave it, I want to share some more of this beautiful evil.

One of the bands that initially intrigued me is Funeral Mourning, one of my favorite progenitors of sorrow. Here listen:


And another of my favorites is a band called Thergothon. I'm too depressed to write commentary right now so just listen to this song if you feel like killing yourself.



My favorite lyrics in that song are: enormous buildings of slimy black stone
built by hands not similar to man

And I've gotten so bogged down by this shit that I have turned to the silly stoner bands for a bit of levity. Here's a doomy death metal song by the everloving Cannabis Corpse:


Now please excuse me, I need to take some time for self care.


The Batlord 12-17-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1396066)
And I've gotten so bogged down by this shit that I have turned to the silly stoner bands for a bit of levity. Here's a doomy death metal song by the everloving Cannabis Corpse:


Damn you, I wanted to check these guys out for a possible spot on my Scuzzy Metal thread. Whatevs, you didn't say much about them so I can still do it anyway.

Engine 02-26-2014 12:46 AM

Fucking Toronto


There are big cities in Canada. Weird, I know. Some of my favorite heavy bands come from there, er one. I won't talk about ridiculously lame bands like Rush or silly ones like Anvil, but there were some good ones.

Some people up there are angry, and they live in Toronto. Watch this short documentary if you don't believe me:

Dont Call Me I Won't Call You


Cursed played some newish-sorta-hardcore kind of stuff. Decent:



But what I'm really into is Mare. Like I've mentioned in this thread, they are one of my favorite heavy bands. Their music is, to me, a revelation of good vibrations. Their sound is hot so check it out:


The man vocalizing in Mare is called Tyler Semrick-Palmateer and he is a throaty-screamy-singing genius.

He was also in a band called The End, and was featured on their album called Transfer Trachea Reverberations from Point: False Omniscient. He left the band pretty early and without him they began to suck pretty badly and went on to release music on Relapse Records. Here's some of the good version of The End:


Engine 02-27-2014 09:07 PM

MORE CANADA

It was remiss of me to imply that Canada hasn't given the world a significant amount of good Heavy Music. It really has. I think. Let's see...

There was this metalcore craze that wasn't always totally silly. Even though we had to deal with bands like Atreyu (American of course), there was a lot of good stuff out there. It was comprised of followers of Neurosis, Isis, etc.. heavy bands who didn't exactly fit into any existing metal scene but were too metal to be considered hardcore. One of my favorite bands of that era was called Buried Inside. From Ottowa, they dicked around for a while before they released a great album in 2005 called Chronoclast. It was produced by one of the leading heavy music guys of the time, Matt Bayles. I have quite a few complaints about Bayles' work in general but I love this album and I think he did right by the band. It also featured pleasantly symmetrical cover art that complimented their sound and concept. The concept of this album was the idea of time as it factors into certain philosophies and ideologies. Pretty neat.

I had the pleasure of seeing the band on their tour for Chronoclast and they delivered the heavy really well. The album comes across as an amateurish Neurosis album with the songs varying between balls-out heavy and kind of a slow heavy, usually with a long buildup. The singer sounds exactly the same throughout: a monotone scream/yell but he does it really well and after a while it becomes comforting. In fact I'd say the vocals are the glue that holds it all together.



So.. I realize that there are influential bands from Canada. And I do love them. But most of them just don't fit both of my requirements for this thread (heavy, good) so I'm going to stop talking about the subarctic wasteland above the United States as soon as I mention one more band, a popular one:


This is a much talked about band and I don't have a whole lot to add. Thrash originators. Technical innovators. You know what I'm saying. I just don't feel that it would be right to end my Canada thing before I featured one of the noisiest, most beautiful thrash songs of 1984: Warriors of Ice


The Batlord 02-28-2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1421209)

This is a much talked about band and I don't have a whole lot to add. Thrash originators. Technical innovators. You know what I'm saying. I just don't feel that it would be right to end my Canada thing before I featured one of the noisiest, most beautiful thrash songs of 1984: Warriors of Ice



Great thread, and while I love their later stuff I have to stop you. Voivod's first album was unlistenable garbage. I bought that album years ago since I heard people talk about it so much, and tried time and time again to find any redeeming qualities about it, but aside from a song here or there that was okay, that album is stanky ass.

Engine 02-28-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1421353)
Great thread, and while I love their later stuff I have to stop you. Voivod's first album was unlistenable garbage. I bought that album years ago since I heard people talk about it so much, and tried time and time again to find any redeeming qualities about it, but aside from a song here or there that was okay, that album is stanky ass.

I can see your point because I rarely if ever listen to War and Pain anymore. But I don't feel that the album is stanky ass, and in some ways I like it better than their more classic later stuff. I definitely think it was good for 1984. Still, I was originally going to post something from one of their more groundbreaking late-80s albums but then I realized that their "progressive thrash" direction made them.. less heavy.

FRED HALE SR. 02-28-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1421416)
I can see your point because I rarely if ever listen to War and Pain anymore. But I don't feel that the album is stanky ass, and in some ways I like it better than their more classic later stuff. I definitely think it was good for 1984. Still, I was originally going to post something from one of their more groundbreaking late-80s albums but then I realized that their "progressive thrash" direction made them.. less heavy.

Stanky ass would never come to mind when thinking of Voivod circa 84.


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