The fact of Thunderdingo's overwhelming mediocrity. The scientific studies and meta-analyses are there, you just need to do your research.
Great Scott he's right! This evidence brought forth to us is not inconclusive, it thoroughly mentions Thundercat being quite a big disappointment since his debut record. It also mentions he should live in Kamasi Washington's shadow.
Ol’ Qwerty Bastard
11-29-2017 06:08 PM
if you read further it mentions how bringing up Kamasi Washington instantly makes any statement that follows in regards to jazz totally irrelevant as you will be mocked by those around you.
Justthefacts
11-29-2017 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy
(Post 1899327)
if you read further it mentions how brining up Kamasi Washington instantly makes any statement that follows in regards to jazz totally irrelevant as you will be mocked by those around you.
Of course because apparently Kamasi Washington is not jazz enough to be considered great. Or whatever this fakkit's trying say. Regardless, I just go by what the study says.
Ol’ Qwerty Bastard
11-29-2017 06:17 PM
no. he just isn’t actually that good after you’ve heard more than 5 jazz records.
I'm huge Courtney Barnett fan and while I'm sort of "meh" on Kurt Vile, I was honestly looking forward to this pairing. I expected a twang grit sandwich but the finished product was boring as all f*ck. They managed to take one of my favorite Barnett songs "Out of the Woodwork" and make me hate it. It was that boring. Failed experiment for me.
Agreed. Sometimes I sit and think was a good album but this album was boring. Pretty unmemorable. I don't know Kurt Vile but this doesn't make me want to check out the rest of his stuff.
This one was a bit different because St. Vincent is somebody I want to like a lot but just couldn't do it with her previous work. This album was a hope that I could finally get over that hump and really enjoy her music and it just wasn't. Lagged in many spots and I kept waiting for it to end. Not a terrible album by any means but just something I wanted to wow me and it just didn't.
Yeah. I don't like Tyler anymore. In fact, I really haven't liked anything he has done since his first album. The kid who made my jaw drop when he released the track "Yonkers" to go along with an absolute killer music video just hasn't impressed me since. I really tried to like this album and it totally left me empty. Good thing we have Earl Sweatshirt because without him, all the Odd Future peeps would be out the window for me.
I always found Tyler to be just grating. I don't understand the love.
Paedantic Basterd
11-29-2017 09:53 PM
I might actually read this (the highest compliment I can give).
MicShazam
11-30-2017 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Qwertyy
(Post 1899327)
if you read further it mentions how bringing up Kamasi Washington instantly makes any statement that follows in regards to jazz totally irrelevant as you will be mocked by those around you.
Isn't Kamasi Washington actually legit jazz though? Can't remember what it sounds like, but I did check out an album of his a few years ago. I know he's the only jazz album Antony Fantano and Pitchfork have probably ever raved about - which might be annoying to a jazz fan when they ignore everything else that comes out in the genre - but that doesn't mean it's bad, does it? Seemed quite far from Norah Jones level pap to me.
I'm probably an even bigger jazz newb and I call this great. I'm sure that someone who listens to Davis and Coltrane all day can find a way to scoff at it:
Frownland
11-30-2017 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MicShazam
(Post 1899414)
Isn't Kamasi Washington actually legit jazz though? Can't remember what it sounds like, but I did check out an album of his a few years ago. I know he's the only jazz album Antony Fantano and Pitchfork have probably ever raved about - which might be annoying to a jazz fan when they ignore everything else that comes out in the genre - but that doesn't mean it's bad, does it? Seemed quite far from Norah Jones level pap to me.
Kamasi Washington makes solid spiritual jazz but he is constantly touted as jazz's saviour and a crazy innovative genius and that is indeed hard to deal with as someone who's listened to more than 5 jazz albums.
OccultHawk
11-30-2017 08:34 AM
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Isn't Kamasi Washington actually legit jazz though?
No.
Exo
11-30-2017 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Frownland
(Post 1899447)
Kamasi Washington makes solid spiritual jazz but he is constantly touted as jazz's saviour and a crazy innovative genius and that is indeed hard to deal with as someone who's listened to more than 5 jazz albums.
That is as far as I go with Kamasi. I like his stuff. He isn't a new Jazz God.
