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ADELE 02-22-2008 06:58 PM

Best New Romantic?
 
Duran Duran are hailed as the best of the New Romantics.
Or is it Culture Club or Adam and his Ants?
Who is you favourite New Romantic?

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-22-2008 07:01 PM

Adam And The Ants

But only because they were once a decent post punk band.

right-track 02-26-2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by countyfan23 (Post 447804)
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ADELE 02-26-2008 03:42 PM

I reckon it was adam.
I reckon he started the craze with the style and make up.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-26-2008 03:51 PM

Steve Strange started it

ADELE 02-26-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 447930)
Steve Strange started it

possibly Urban.
But guess who rejected adam from punk and told him to wear the get up he wore???
I know, I am going to be lynched online but honestly it is true.
Malcolm.
I swear it is true.
You walked into that one Urban!!!
But steve strange does have a weak claim.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-26-2008 04:03 PM

Rejected him from punk?

:laughing:

What happened was none of the stuff Westwood & McLaren did with him was working & they were dropped from their record label. So he got a new band & started fresh.
McLaren had absolutly zero to do with the Adam & The Ants that became successful.

And I think you'll find Steve Strange had EVERYTHING to do with the start of the new romantics considering anybody who was anybody in that scene came from his Blitz club

ADELE 02-26-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 447950)
Rejected him from punk?

:laughing:

What happened was none of the stuff Westwood & McLaren did with him was working & they were dropped from their record label. So he got a new band & started fresh.
McLaren had absolutly zero to do with the Adam & The Ants that became successful.

And I think you'll find Steve Strange had EVERYTHING to do with the start of the new romantics considering anybody who was anybody in that scene came from his Blitz club

urban who writes your texts?
Ah ha ha.
Do you buy them in $2 bookshops?
Urban you are wrong on so many facts.
Maybe you read websites made by people in Korea!!
Maclaren told him to f off and told him to wear these clothes vivian was making and he did.
I know the songs etc were his though.
Steve Strange could have played a hand in the beginning like creating a few flyers and getting a premises. I see what you mean, he did play a role in the movement. But Adam probably made others do it too. I mean, duran duran proably saw him n tele and thought okay guys, lets ditch this and do this instead.

Urban you are fast becoming the musical equivilant of George Bush.
i don't doubt your beliefs but your info is really poor in research.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-26-2008 04:14 PM

Maybe you should do your research

Mclaren took Adam's entire band & formed Bow Wow Wow leaving him on his own. He rebuilt the band , started a new direction & signed to CBS.

If you are just going to make stupid jokes to anyone who disagrees with you then why are you even here to debate anything. It's not like you accept others might have a point.

ADELE 02-26-2008 04:26 PM

You do have a point urban.
I am only messing.
Was steve strange the svengali who started all that movement where s ballet played in London?
I know you are right I was just saying that lots of people run clubs but not all movements become nationwide.
Adam made the journos brand it and magazines look for a name etc.
Do you see?
I am only been funny don't take it too seriously. You are right about strange but adam did make it nationwide when he burst on the scene. He is the first pop star I remember in my life. Everyone as kids done prince charming dance. then came culture club and duran duran. But the best I think is Adam.

jackhammer 02-26-2008 06:11 PM

Learn some punctuation. I thought mine was bad...

ADELE 02-27-2008 03:21 PM

I don't , believe, in, violence!

achoo 03-06-2008 01:21 PM

adam for sure. but his post punk stuff is where its at!

and Bow Wow Wow's first album is a goody. it's a shame Mclaren took the band from adam. would have liked ot have seen where it would have gone.

right-track 03-06-2008 04:51 PM

Always had a soft spot for Japan and Sylvian had a touch of the Bryan Ferry's about him.
Love this record;


jackhammer 03-06-2008 04:57 PM

I have'nt heard that for years!

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-06-2008 04:58 PM

Thats a great song.

I only have Gentlemen Take Polaroids by them. I've been trying to find some of their early stuff when they were more Bowie/ New York Dolls influenced.

right-track 03-06-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 451842)
Thats a great song.

I only have Gentlemen Take Polaroids by them. I've been trying to find some of their early stuff when they were more Bowie/ New York Dolls influenced.

Yeah, they were another one of those bands that got sucked into a genre. They always stood out from the rest of the New Romantics.

Edit: Have you heard the Dalis Car album with Peter Murphy and Mick Karn?

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-06-2008 05:08 PM

Same thing with the Human League.
Their first 2 albums practically invented synth pop.

Then they split up & got those 2 girls in the band.

right-track 03-06-2008 05:24 PM



Dalis Car - 'His Box' from the Waking Hour album.
Karn was a brilliant and under rated bassist.
Shame him and Murphy didn't do more.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-06-2008 05:30 PM

I've seen the name around several times before but didn't know who was involved or what they sounded like.

That's not bad I might have to look further.

Molecules 03-07-2008 09:40 PM

if we're talking New Wave i agree on Adam and Bow Wow Wow with their ridiculous tribal cacophony. Adam Ant may have been a bit ridiculous (working his way through pirate, highwayman, kinght in shining armour) but he was the embodiment of pop icon.
It's all about the Associates' album 'Sulk' for me though... Billy Mackenzie's voice, seemingly an improvisational free element working without the confines of the music, the lyrics - 'Tore my hair out from the roots/Planted them in someone's garden' - eww

The Boy 02-08-2009 07:27 PM

Adam! Adam Ant was so versatile to go from art-rock/post-punk roots to become a glammy, glitzy, camp Bolan/Bowie influecned song and dance man.

barbarella 02-14-2009 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track (Post 451834)
Always had a soft spot for Japan and Sylvian had a touch of the Bryan Ferry's about him.
Love this record;


Very True; And somehow quite haunting. The two that have always stayed in my head are Human League- Sound Of The Crowd, and Visage- Fade To Grey. They still sound just as good now.

Scots_ML 02-14-2009 06:12 AM

I always have laugh at how London always takes the plaudits for movements in the UK.
For example there was a burgeoning scene in Glasgow that started in approx 1976 that was New Romantic in everything but name. The scene even had its own local bands like the Cuban Heels.
The followers of this scene were merely known as “Posers” and had a liking for (at that time) what was considered outlandish clothes.
In Glasgow this was, what you might call, a high risk lifestyle choice as even just wearing skin tight trousers (as opposed to the fashion of the time, flares) often saw you subjected to violence.
London always gets the kudos because it’s the main area for the media in the UK. That’s why past scenes dominated by Liverpool, Manchester, and even Glasgow (to a lesser extent in the early 80’s) have always annoyed the self centered, vainglorious, media whores of the UK’s South East.
As always, once the media packaged, branded and spat out a London scene as “New Romantic” and it getting picked up by the middle classes, it had already died out in other parts of the UK.

Molecules 02-14-2009 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scots_ML (Post 596320)
I always have laugh at how London always takes the plaudits for movements in the UK.
For example there was a burgeoning scene in Glasgow that started in approx 1976 that was New Romantic in everything but name. The scene even had its own local bands like the Cuban Heels.
The followers of this scene were merely known as “Posers” and had a liking for (at that time) what was considered outlandish clothes.
In Glasgow this was, what you might call, a high risk lifestyle choice as even just wearing skin tight trousers (as opposed to the fashion of the time, flares) often saw you subjected to violence.
London always gets the kudos because it’s the main area for the media in the UK. That’s why past scenes dominated by Liverpool, Manchester, and even Glasgow (to a lesser extent in the early 80’s) have always annoyed the self centered, vainglorious, media whores of the UK’s South East.
As always, once the media packaged, branded and spat out a London scene as “New Romantic” and it getting picked up by the middle classes, it had already died out in other parts of the UK.

I agree with your point but... were you in a failed synth-pop outfit or something? you sound quite bitter...

Anyway I don't think London quite claims credit for everything in pop culture... off the top of my head, Merseybeat? Almost all the best 60's beat and pop groups were ex-captiol - the Hollies, Zombies, Beatles, rah rah... They just all had to go to London to get noticed in the first place :D
All the best 70's/80's bands were Lancashire/ Cheshire too, I think that's pretty acknowledged.

These days there aren't any regional scenes kicking off because of the internet and the media seemingly not giving a f*ck anyway, it's really boring. You never know where bands are from

Scots_ML 02-14-2009 08:41 AM

Quote:

were you in a failed synth-pop outfit or something? you sound quite bitter...
I'm not bitter about anything. I was in a band ( I thought I was Keith Moon) :drummer:that played rock music, whose residency in a pub lasted 3 gigs LOL.
We were asked not to come back after a riot at our third gig when we refused to play roll over lay down, the Status Quo number.

When I mentioned Liverpool, it was obviously with Merseybeat in mind. Irrespective of where bands came from, they couldn't make it until they went to London.

barbarella 02-14-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scots_ML (Post 596320)
I always have laugh at how London always takes the plaudits for movements in the UK.
For example there was a burgeoning scene in Glasgow that started in approx 1976 that was New Romantic in everything but name. The scene even had its own local bands like the Cuban Heels.
The followers of this scene were merely known as “Posers” and had a liking for (at that time) what was considered outlandish clothes.
In Glasgow this was, what you might call, a high risk lifestyle choice as even just wearing skin tight trousers (as opposed to the fashion of the time, flares) often saw you subjected to violence.
London always gets the kudos because it’s the main area for the media in the UK. That’s why past scenes dominated by Liverpool, Manchester, and even Glasgow (to a lesser extent in the early 80’s) have always annoyed the self centered, vainglorious, media whores of the UK’s South East.
As always, once the media packaged, branded and spat out a London scene as “New Romantic” and it getting picked up by the middle classes, it had already died out in other parts of the UK.

Didn't The Human League start off in Sheffield?

Scots_ML 02-15-2009 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbarella (Post 596549)
Didn't The Human League start off in Sheffield?

Yes they did. Which only backs up the point I was trying to make.
Maybe I should have added "for example" to the scenes I named. :bonkhead:

barbarella 03-29-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 446278)
Duran Duran are hailed as the best of the New Romantics.
Or is it Culture Club or Adam and his Ants?
Who is you favourite New Romantic?

With the re-appearance of Spandau Ballet and Ultravox, and the word being that Adam Ant might soon be back with us (wouldn't that be Something!) has anyone heard anything yet with regard to Steve Strange and Visage?
Fade To Grey is awesome!



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