Otherwise, "Pop music" is just whatever you hear on Top 40 radio, and for the most part driven by corporate interests which push whatever trends are bringing in the most money at the time.

Absolutely PERFECT spot on definition of what pop is!

Pop music is basically anything that's popular or easy to listen to.

hm.......
 

I just wonder
Can you really label a song as pop if it isn't popular at all

Maybe you should take the time to read other people's posts before putting up your own.

Yes.

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According to good ol' Wiki, But honestly it's like God, everyone has a different idea about it's meaning

Do people think pendulum are pop? they are my fav artist at the mo, and are played on radio one all the time, so i guess that makes them pop? When i first like them i would say they were dnb, now they are almost rock. Still love them tho, best live act Ive seen! What do peeps think?

This peep thinks pop is indeed a very slippery definition - by all means a song can definitely have a "pop" sound - ie, if it has a good layer of radio sheen, if you can tell it was at least designed to appeal to a wide audience, even if it doesn't... it could be called a "pop" song...

Nonetheless, sometimes songs that aren't particularly designed to be mass appealing songs, suddenly, strangely, gain a mass audience, and get somewhat canonized into the realms of "pop" music... and thus they fit a different, more loose definition of "pop" music... music that has sold alot of copies, has alot of listeners, etc...

But hey, before you panic, folks, this is just a basic description of how the whole world of musical innovation works... underground invents, gains p[opularity, the face of music changes, the newly born style gets insanely popular, runs out of steam, making way for a new underground to rise, and the process starts agains...

"and it's all just a little bit of history repeating..."

They were never Drum 'n Bass really but yes I would say they were pop. They are commercially successful enough now to be considered pop music.

They always sounded pretty poppy to me... so yeah, they're pop!

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To each his or her own. MCR is emo - so that's why I don't dig hem.

And you're correct, my error, I meant the Killer's 4th album.

it is this

They play Oasis on the Radio all the time, but that doesn't make it Pop Music

Oasis are pop music.

Ouch, MCR, emo?
They're pop/rock if you ask me. Older stuff may count as pop-punk, but not in any way is MCR emo.
CaP'n Jazz, At The Drive-In, Circle Takes The Square, are emo bands.

[QUOTE=jnova;577994]Pop is music that is "hip" at the moment. QUOTE]

Pop is definately not what is "hip" - it is almost the opposite.Pop is music that is relatively non offensive, to the general public.It has gained a significant following in the given stylised music format that has a proven commercial selling appeal.If based around a rock group it is called Pop rock.It usually has an up tempo rhythm & generally got a strong hook in the chorus to draw the listener in.

"Hip" is when you are familiar with or informed about the latest ideas, styles, developments, etc.When they become pop they loose their hippness.There must be a selective incrowd for it to be hip.

Out of interest what is hip at the moment.Emo isn't because it has been around too long.Disco-punk (as opposed to dance-punk - which was part of the goth scene) seems to be something that is something I hadn't heard of until recently.Perhaps it is what commercial organisations are trying to push onto people to create a hip culture ??

Just checked it's been around since the early 2000's (not hip, also) but New rave is a new off shot ??

Any other new "hip" things happening.

toughie. most people see pop as as the definition of shiny, commercial-often crap- music. But then I think someone like The Cribs (who's music is basically catchy melodies and -oh-oh-oh-oh chorus's) make pop music, despite the fact their music sounds like it was recorded in a shed

Oasis are most definitely pop. The genre they were a part of was called "britpop" for a reason.

pop is god through a straw

Wut now? The only thing emo about them is their style. Same thing with alot of so called "punk" nowadays.

I have an interesting question... how can pop be defined nowadays when it can fit so many different genres under its umbrella... God, there's even pop Jazz and arguably, pop metal... is it that pop is a paradigm that many different styles of music fall under and not just a style itself?

Blame MTV and music radio stations...

"Pop" is also a palindrome...

Just thought I'd share...

Madam, I'm Adam.

Popular music is pop music.

Maybe one should try to split up pop music since there are obviously two distinct camps out there.

• People passionate about making music.
• People passionate about making money.

You can also split it into other groups.

• People who sing/play their own music.
• People who sing/play other people's music.

Possibly there are some intermediates.

Anyways, pop doesn't really work as a genre .. I agree that pop is just short for popular and lots of music can reach the charts.

Thst there is a pretty darn good definition of what "pop" is, in my humble opinion...

Yeah I think of pop as just being short for popular. SOME pop can be alright, but I don't tend to listen to the radio, so I don't hear it often.

Pop can't even be broken down to one genre. It has all kinds of sub genres. In the sense of catchy hooks and simple chord progression etc I love pop but most of the pop I enjoy isn't on the radio. I don't hate on things on the radio, I accept that people like what they hear on it but what my local stations play isn't what I'm into. If I hear something on the radio that I enjoy chances are that it's an older song.

OK! I Give in! I Don't Even Listen To Oasis!! :bowdown::laughing: :bowdown: Give Me The Gap Band Any Day!!!!

It just means popular. It's what I naturally rebel against, I can't help it.

You must have missed out on a lot of music, then.

Pop is a broad term. It's far too simple to just say it's short for popular. I've never heard The New Pornographers on the radio, but their music is unquestionably poppy.

pop is the sound a firecracker makes

pop is one "o" away from poop...

Pop is the mutilated form of a music invented by black people that used to be rebellious, but got enveloped by the mainstream media and major record labels.

Jazz.
Rock and roll.
Hip-hop.

This is the second post I've seen from you where you copy & paste something from Wikipedia ..

>> Pop music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What the hell are you? A wikipedia bot gone rogue? Or just immune to embarassment? .. :laughing:

Heh yeah I looked pop music up on wiki immediately after reading that post to confirm.

Pop generally pulses @ the same bpm's nowadays around what the average human heart beat pulses and alotta pop especially r n b and rap stations, they use the same notes over and over, same chords, same tones and textures, its pretty boring and mindless... Old pop songs to me we're good, but the stuff pumping out now is terrible

That it is... and a very hazy, not well defined or clear term... "too poppy" could and has been applied from everyone including Metallica through to Britney Spears... it's a hopeless loaded undefineable easy term, in some ways its as effective as saying something is "nice"... it usually requires a little more description to derive any actual information from it...