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swim 01-11-2009 08:11 PM

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jazzrocks 01-12-2009 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lucylamppost (Post 577158)
The Beatles are the best definition of pop.

The Beatles are the best definition of progressive pop and experimental pop. They had quirky chord progressions, great melodies with progressive and experimental elements like the structure of "A Day in the Life" and even "All You Need Is Love" uses weird time signatures. They basically revolutionized pop music with using feedback, backward guitars, looping, and exotic instruments.

jnova 01-12-2009 07:14 PM

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Pop is music that is "hip" at the moment. Pop music like Hannah Montana, Pink, whatever new rapper the record industry is propping up this year(they have a new one every 9 or so months and then they vanish after their 1-hit wonder wears off), etc.

After all - where the hell is Solda Boy(sp?) now? Mims?

Pop rock is the one thing I really miss. If there is one style of music that has really been bastardized and compromised over the past 4 years - it's pop rock.

I mean we went from Fuel, 9 Days, Default, Vertical Horizon, 3 Doors Down, etc. to what? My Chemical Romance(who had 1 good song) and what? 2 other bands?

Green Day hasn't come out with an album in half-a-decade.

The Killers are still kicking it but I doubt their next album will be even close to the success of their last 2.

Rock is dying sadly. Or it's being beaten back to the underground - which is just as good as dying in terms of commercial and artistic viability.

OOS 01-12-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jnova (Post 577994)
Pop is music that is "hip" at the moment. Pop music like Hannah Montana, Pink, whatever new rapper the record industry is propping up this year(they have a new one every 9 or so months and then they vanish after their 1-hit wonder wears off), etc.

After all - where the hell is Solda Boy(sp?) now? Mims?

Pop rock is the one thing I really miss. If there is one style of music that has really been bastardized and compromised over the past 4 years - it's pop rock.

I mean we went from Fuel, 9 Days, Default, Vertical Horizon, 3 Doors Down, etc. to what? My Chemical Romance(who had 1 good song) and what? 2 other bands?

Green Day hasn't come out with an album in half-a-decade.

The Killers are still kicking it but I doubt their next album will be even close to the success of their last 2.


Rock is dying sadly. Or it's being beaten back to the underground - which is just as good as dying in terms of commercial and artistic viability.

The Killers already released a third album, and its been very successful. Sold almost a million copies world wide in less then two months. Also, MCR is actually pretty good, in my opinion.

Rubber 01-12-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OOS (Post 577404)
I would consider AC to be a pop group. Surrounded by dense electronics, yes, but at its core its pop.

I think the screams and stuff dampen that a little bit.

scottsy 01-12-2009 09:45 PM

I think whoever said rock is dying is kinda askew - rock's fine... heck half the charts are littered with rock of all kinds, someone mentioned the Killers are doing well right now, so are the Kings of Leon, and uuhh, this little band of upstarts named U2 are about to make a huge release this year... Coldplay are riding the crest of a huge wave of success...


These might not all be examples of edgy, creative rock music, but like every other style, rap, dance, electronic, etc... they have a commercial fringe which bower - birds from the more innovative, perhaps lesser known bands...


I personally think rock is doing as healthily as most other styles of music out there in the world...

martinsejas 01-14-2009 07:24 AM

pop is a very vague and ambiguous term used to describe anything that has become mainstream. for example psychedelic pop became mainstream in the mid to late 60s due to its commercial success but once it declined in popularity, it was no longer known as a form of 'pop music', however it has survived as an underground genre resurfacing throughout history on many occasions

OOS 01-18-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubber (Post 578036)
I think the screams and stuff dampen that a little bit.

Well, i'm not sure, i've only heard Merriweather Post Pavillion, and I would consider that pop. Maybe the earlier albums are more experimental.

scottsy 01-19-2009 09:56 PM

Pop is the third member of an animated advertising trio designed to sell Rice Crackles in Australia at least - his co - conspirators were Snap and Crackle...

Anteater 01-21-2009 08:22 PM

Pop music (as a genre anyway) is anything rediculously catchy and harmonic, and for the most part rather conventional in structure and relying on hooks instrumentally/vocally. These traits are obviously not limited by genre: I for example love pop-progressive rock like It Bites, Pure Reason Revolution, etc, but that doesn't mean its something thats necessarily commercial (though sometimes it can be).

Otherwise, "Pop music" is just whatever you hear on Top 40 radio, and for the most part driven by corporate interests which push whatever trends are bringing in the most money at the time.


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