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brunofan 01-14-2013 09:50 PM

MJ god bless him
 
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Soulflower 03-28-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1254059)
Probably to do with the fact MJ was releasing music much more recently than The Beatles, and also because his weird personality kept him in the spotlight.

They're both overrated anyway imo.


I disagree.


How is MJ overrated?

If anything he is very underrated as a songwriter, producer, arranger because most people do not know that he wrote most of his well known songs like Billie Jean, Beat It, Wanna Be Startin Something, Dont Stop Till You Get Enough, etc He has written 90% percent of his catalogue himself and most of the songs he wrote himself were number one hits. He also produced a few of his songs as well as songs for other artists. He also has played a few instruments contrary to popular opinion. Maybe he is not the greatest "artist" of all time but he was by far the greatest entertainer of all time.

Soulflower 03-28-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacific_Wayfarer (Post 1301698)
He should have met good people.

What do you mean?

bernard666 04-04-2013 08:19 PM

King of POP!

Neapolitan 04-05-2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1254059)
Probably to do with the fact MJ was releasing music much more recently than The Beatles, and also because his weird personality kept him in the spotlight.

They're both overrated anyway imo.

The Beatles are not over-rated, (you might not like them) but they are rated just fine imho. The Beatles were doing this that other weren't doing before The Beatles. You didn't hear Lonnie Donegan writing a song like "Within You Without You." But on the other hand you are absolutely right about Jacko there were plenty of real good R&B singers and writers before and after Jacko that were better than him.

OliviaCherry 04-14-2013 03:17 AM

I still listening him and i will never forget him!!! :) Love him and miss him!

RL Clown 04-20-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OliviaCherry (Post 1306848)
I still listening him and i will never forget him!!! :) Love him and miss him!

Me too, I still listen to Michael Jackson. I'm not a huge fan of pop music, but I think that his music is good for dancing parties.

Cuthbert 04-20-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1301694)
I disagree.


How is MJ overrated?

If anything he is very underrated as a songwriter, producer, arranger because most people do not know that he wrote most of his well known songs like Billie Jean, Beat It, Wanna Be Startin Something, Dont Stop Till You Get Enough, etc He has written 90% percent of his catalogue himself and most of the songs he wrote himself were number one hits. He also produced a few of his songs as well as songs for other artists. He also has played a few instruments contrary to popular opinion. Maybe he is not the greatest "artist" of all time but he was by far the greatest entertainer of all time.

MJ was just another pop star. He and Quincy had the formula right as is evident in the record sales but his music was just bubblegum pop.

His music wasn't really very challenging, just catchy melodies and prominent choruses designed to be passively consumed so that it leaves plenty of room for people to be bamboozled by his weird personality and fancy dance moves.

If he wasn't such a strange cunt I don't think he'd have this level of fandom.

@Neo I don't like the Beatles, their name seems to be synonymous with the phrase "greatest band of all time". I disagree. To me they are overrated. They changed the face of pop music, of that there is no doubt, but they are still overrated. Plus their annoying fan base pisses me off.

Soulflower 04-28-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1309428)
MJ was just another pop star.

Well I agree he was a pop star but he wasnt the average pop star. Unlike most pop stars he wrote more than half his catalogue, played a few instruments, was experimental with his sound, singing, performances and music videos. He pushed that medium and performances so I disagree with you implying he was just like the average pop star. Most of the things that he did was not done before his time. So I dont understand your arguement.

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1309428)
He and Quincy had the formula right as is evident in the record sales but his music was just bubblegum pop.

Did you know that Michael wrote the entire bad album and co produced it as well? Michael also co produced a few songs on Thriller and Off The Wall as well as wrote some of the songs. Most of the songs Michael wrote and co produced himself were number one, top 10 hits. So you can not possibly give all the credit to Quincy. Not to mention Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad dont sound the same. After the Bad album Michael went on to have success without Quincy so I dont get this arguement either. This a typical arguement most people on this board make because they have something against "popular" music and it just shows that you havent bothered to listen to all his music before making a generalized assumption about his music. If a song is good then it is good why does it matter if its pop? MJ is a legend because me made good pop music that people related to and it made people come together among other things.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1309428)
MJ was just another pop star.
His music wasn't really very challenging, just catchy melodies and prominent choruses designed to be passively consumed so that it leaves plenty of room for people to be bamboozled by his weird personality and fancy dance moves.

I thought his Dangerous and HIStory albums had complex lyrics and dealt with complicated themes. Ironically he wrote and produced majority of those albums and Quincy was out of the picture then. I feel you should listen to more of his music besides his popular hits.

Being a good dancer has nothing to do with his music. Sometimes that takes away from his music but that doesnt mean he doesnt have experimental songs because he does.


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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1309428)
MJ was just another pop star.
If he wasn't such a strange **** I don't think he'd have this level of fandom.


Whats with the name calling?

This arguement is ridiculous because his level of fame during his Thriller days was the biggest peak by any pop star (I think) and then afterward he went on to become a big international star due to his talent/music. During his later years, I agree his personal life got more attention than his music but by that time he had become such a mega star previously for his talent so it didnt matter

CrazyVegn 04-28-2013 05:47 PM

I like him - listenening to Keep the Faith today. . .


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