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Old 02-04-2014, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I still have yet to hear from you. Were these songs written by uneducated idiots?
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As someone who was as skeptical as you of modern music a mere 7 months ago (see first few pages of this thread), I seriously wonder how much you've actually listened to. Or maybe you're insisting music today is bad because it gives you another reason to rant against the education system?

Tell me these songs aren't melodic. You don't seem to be listening or critiquing the songs shown in this thread. Here is your chance. I actually sing these songs in the shower.





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Old 01-27-2014, 11:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here's a song whose emotions challenge me as much as Faithless Love. It's much more "minimalist" melodically, to the point where they almost can't be compared, but that in itself gives it a certain beauty, and makes it a very sad listen. Just 4-5 notes define the entire melody.

melody: B-A
counter melody: F#-E ... or ... F#-E-D ... or F#-E-A

Then they do a refrain D-A-D-B.

It's almost like Gregorian Chant in its simplicity. But that's what also gives it its sad, ethereal feel.

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Old 01-27-2014, 11:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think there has been a turn around in pop music in the last 5 years, largely because the R&B that had ruled the roost since the 90's has run its course.

Nothing against R&B per say, but it was all music based on sampling beats from Britney Spears to Lil Wayne, to $hit artists singing Toto's Africa over a sampled hip hop beats.

In short people got tired of the bull$hit, you can only market music to 14 year olds for so long, so real musichans are returning to the forefront. ie









So lets cross are fingers and hope that this bull**** finally fades away.



Because the original is so much better than what these R&B jackasses put out.

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Old 01-28-2014, 02:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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huh the "rihanna makes bad music because she didnt get proper education" argument is something ive never heard before.

I wonder what noted college dropout john lennon thinks of this hypothesis.
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Old 01-29-2014, 05:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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huh the "rihanna makes bad music because she didnt get proper education" argument is something ive never heard before.

I wonder what noted college dropout john lennon thinks of this hypothesis.
The fact that John Lennon was a college dropout means nothing. My hypothesis was not that getting a "bad education" can render you unable to write good music - but that getting you mind screwed up by means of getting a modern (progressive) education can do so.

Actually, not going to school at all might be beneficial for a kid nowadays - given the deplorable state of the schools (and day care centers).
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The fact that John Lennon was a college dropout means nothing. My hypothesis was not that getting a "bad education" can render you unable to write good music - but that getting you mind screwed up by means of getting a modern (progressive) education can do so.

Actually, not going to school at all might be beneficial for a kid nowadays - given the deplorable state of the schools (and day care centers).
Unless you can provide a link to a research study that proves any of this and gives spine to your argument, I'm not inclined to believe your amateur observations.

Also, different countries have different education systems.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Haha, good point
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Old 01-29-2014, 07:02 AM   #8 (permalink)
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There has always been bad and good music. It's true that nowadays the "bad" music has increased a lot, but I think it's just a phase. Things will get better.
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Old 01-29-2014, 02:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well where are the people who can write and sing a song like "The Sound Of Silence", or "California Dreaming "? If it's that good they will find a way to get it out there. In my opinion this is not a case of the so called older generation labeling today's music as crap it's just the reality of what is out there and being made these days!
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Well where are the people who can write and sing a song like "The Sound Of Silence", or "California Dreaming "? If it's that good they will find a way to get it out there. In my opinion this is not a case of the so called older generation labeling today's music as crap it's just the reality of what is out there and being made these days!
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