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DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-01-2013 10:57 PM

At the risk of turning this into (another) AnCo thread ...

Here is a song someone on a Youtube video somewhere dubbed "African music of the 23rd Century." You really need to make this as loud as you can possibly tolerate, even at the risk of damaging your eardrums. It will be worth the risk to your hearing. :-)



Is there anything anywhere else that sounds like this? I don't think so.

Surell 09-01-2013 10:57 PM

Preeeesh man, i'm extremely shocked and disappointed in myself for not knowing sooner, i guess it's kind of fallen to the wayside since its release, i know he even said he'd rather not revisit it. But i'm a check it reeeeall soon!

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-01-2013 10:59 PM

BTW, I have come to consider it a Crime Against Humanity that AnCo did not turn Fall Be Kind into a full-length album. :)

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-01-2013 11:12 PM

Here's a guy I stumbled across on Youtube while surfing other groups. I picked up his latest album, which has a couple good songs. Mostly instrumental stuff, but he's got this woman singing a few songs who does a nice job.

This isn't that innovative (not all that different from some 70's-80's Tangerine Dream, for example), but it's got some experimental stuff going on anyway.

This song could be called a "23rd Century Bossa Nova song." :)



There's also a song I like on the same album called "Hunger" but it seems to be blocked on Youtube.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-02-2013 08:27 PM

I'm not sure if this counts as "innovative," but I just learned you can stumble across some really nice stuff by following the recommended links on Youtube. :)


Surell 09-02-2013 09:40 PM

Flying Lotus is cool, i don't know much by him, but I THOUGHT YOU AINT DIG HIP HOP. also Grizzly Bear are really really great, their newest album in my eyes is a modern masterpiece (of course it's too early to say classic or anything but it is really great), it's practically indie prog within pop regulations, though I won't post it here as a support for pop because the sound is more rock in my mind. It's hard to say, which is one of the great things anyway.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-02-2013 09:45 PM

At least on that one album, I'd classify Grizzly Bear as something like, "Psychedelic bluegrass-folk-rock." :) Hell I think even my mother might like it. ;)

Will check out their newest album later. Glanced over a few songs a short while ago, but I liked the more acoustic sounds of Yellow House, at least at first glance.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-02-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1363811)
I THOUGHT YOU AINT DIG HIP HOP

There was a minimum of hip-hop type stuff on that one album, which made it tolerable.

I really just liked 2 songs, a couple others were OK, but the rest, while maybe somewhat interesting, were overall "meh." But that's the only album of his I've heard so far.

I can imagine there's some rap/hip-hop style stuff I can like - after all, even Jack Johnson sings a bunch of songs in a rap-type rhythm (think: Good People), but at least he does it musically and without an overbearing beat. One could say the same of AnCo's Sky. So, in my mind it can be done, if it's done right. It's just that, I don't usually see it done to my personal tastes. Usually it's too obnoxious, which I can't stand.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-02-2013 09:54 PM

Here's a song where the singing is a rap-style rhythm, but it's actual singing instead of mere talking, and the beat isn't this super-loud obnoxious thing, so it actually works well here. Great song.


Surell 09-02-2013 09:55 PM

The new release sheds the folkishness a bit, it's a lot more extraverted and plugged in than most of their prior material, which i don't have a ton of experience with besides the more popular songs and passing listenings. P4k said this album was engaging the environment while Rolling Stone claimed it was like "Radiohead at a meditation retreat," although besides the latter's heavier moments (Hail to the Thief, OKC, certain songs), I'd say Shields shows a little more fight and pizazz than something like Amnesiac or the King of Limbs, or even most of Kid A (though it's definitely not as ominous or vague in its presentation).

That reminds me, Radiohead make incredibly innovative pop music. Unfortunately, the OP isn't here to discuss further :( or at least he hasn't been.

EDIT: I luuuuuv overbearing beats but i suppose i can be a little overbearing. In my attempt to bridge Pop, Hip Hop, and Radiohead in this thread, here it is:



it embraces studio innovation and melody, uses a more spoken style (once i heard in a more jamaican music sense), and also it's radiohead.


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