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Kashmir86 12-13-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
The Doors for me.
I find pink floyd boring.

hmm exactly opposite for me. Pink floyd takes you places, thus I do not get bored near as easy as the doors, which frankly their music sounds a bit too much the same for my liking. Listening to pink floyd is almost like watching a movie, it keeps me interested the whole way through the album. They don't focus as much on lyrics at times, but rather musical concepts. Pink Floyd is responsible for getting me into progressive rock. I remember the first song I had introduced to me was hey you, and I remember listening through it and at the end thinking, holy **** that was amazing, then backing the track up and relistening to it over and over:hphones:

JohnnyK 12-13-2005 04:44 PM

I did that the first time I heard Hey You also, Kashmir.

Floyd and The Doors are two of my favorite bands, this is tough. I'll have to go with PF, just because I happen to be listening to Echoes right now, and due to the larger musical diversity. Besides, I get sick of all the keyboard work after a while, and I don't think I've ever gotten tired of one of Gilmours amazing solos.

Yanqui_UXO 12-13-2005 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kashmir86
yeah i have the dvd of the making of the dark side, and its got all the members nowadays, except for barrett of course, and they are all so proper and respectable. I love watching gilmour play, and rick wright for that matter. I think that richard wright has the greatest musical grasp and knowledge of scales and progressions of anyone in the group, he is very knowledgable.

indeed. wright is amazing. he knows exactly when to fill something in.

GoodbyeBlueSky 12-13-2005 04:56 PM

i love me some doors, but floyd all the way mayn

bungalow 12-13-2005 05:00 PM

The Doors.......
All the way

thedude01 12-13-2005 07:19 PM

too hard not even gonna think about the Doors and Floyd

Kashmir86 12-13-2005 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyK
I did that the first time I heard Hey You also, Kashmir.

Floyd and The Doors are two of my favorite bands, this is tough. I'll have to go with PF, just because I happen to be listening to Echoes right now, and due to the larger musical diversity. Besides, I get sick of all the keyboard work after a while, and I don't think I've ever gotten tired of one of Gilmours amazing solos.

agreed, the keys do become repetative and old after a while, since you hear them so much in every song. Don't get me wrong manzerick (sp?) makes the doors sound like the doors, and not sound like anyone else, but I do find myself getting slightly annoyed by it after some time. I find myself preferring the tracks that favor the guitar more, like love me two times and such. Riders, LA Woman, and The End are masterpieces, however almost every song by the Floyd is a masterpiece to me, so the floyd wins by heaps. Too many doors songs annoy me, like alabama song (whiskey bar), tell all the people, you make me real, and the changeling come to mind. Morrison was a crazy good poet, I'll give credit where credit is due. Some of his poetics don't quite sound too great in a song IMO, but nonetheless he is a legend.

tehpibb 12-14-2005 05:30 AM

pink floyd , their song "Empty Spaces" is amazing :)

boo boo 12-14-2005 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tehpibb
pink floyd , their song "Empty Spaces" is amazing :)

"What shall we use
To fill the empty spaces
Where we used to talk?
How shall I fill
The final places?
How should I complete the wall"

blackwidowxxx 01-19-2010 04:53 AM

pink floyd is the best
 
ya its true although jim morrison was a creative guy but david gilmour and syd barrett were more creative

trouserjazz 01-19-2010 05:42 AM

The Doors for me, although its pretty close.

ConGrUenCy 01-19-2010 08:44 AM

I think the fact that Floyd has Gilmour ends the comparison right there. Albums like Wish You Were Here, DSOTM, Division Bell, all brilliant, although Division Bell is my favourite.
I tried Doors, but I can't seem to get into their music, I dislike it thoroughly.

Janszoon 01-19-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ConGrUenCy (Post 813036)
I think the fact that Floyd has Gilmour ends the comparison right there. Albums like Wish You Were Here, DSOTM, Division Bell, all brilliant, although Division Bell is my favourite.

Heresy!

Atomicearth 01-19-2010 10:54 AM

Definetly Floyd.. Over 200 million albums sold world wide.. The psychidelic nature of theirmusic is what makes it so unique. They also have the album art work..

Petula07 01-22-2010 08:20 AM

I really like or love both bands... But I don't need to think about it too long... Pink Floyd! :hphones:

indietrash3 01-22-2010 08:29 AM

Doors.

Janszoon 01-22-2010 08:29 AM

Pink Floyd easily. They were better at writing pop music and experimental music than The Doors, were more eclectic than the The Doors, and released several perfect albums unlike The Doors who released none.

spiralx 01-23-2010 04:21 PM

Love both, but i have more favorite Floyd songs...

jackhammer 01-23-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 814746)
Pink Floyd easily. They were better at writing pop music and experimental music than The Doors, were more eclectic than the The Doors, and released several perfect albums unlike The Doors who released none.

Absolutely spot on although The Doors did create some great tracks that are amongst my favourites to this day.

The vid is obviously not the original but this version is stunning:


duga 01-23-2010 06:43 PM

i kinda feel like pink floyd and the doors were both trying to accomplish something different. as far as which band i like better i would go with pink floyd...but i never considered them similar in any sort of way. sometimes i'm in a pink floyd mood sometimes i'm in a doors mood...

trouserjazz 01-30-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 814746)
Pink Floyd easily. They were better at writing pop music and experimental music than The Doors, were more eclectic than the The Doors, and released several perfect albums unlike The Doors who released none.

Disagree with that, the Doors debut album is flawless.

Janszoon 01-30-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by trouserjazz (Post 818847)
Disagree with that, the Doors debut album is flawless.

It has Jim Morrison singing on it so I must disagree.

trouserjazz 01-30-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 818853)
It has Jim Morrison singing on it so I must disagree.

:stupid:


What dont you like about Morrison?

Janszoon 01-30-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by trouserjazz (Post 818879)
:stupid:


What dont you like about Morrison?

His voice and his lyrics.

The Fascinating Turnip 01-30-2010 01:45 PM

Now this is one of those hard questions...but since I'm not as familiar with the work of The Doors as i am with Teh Floyd, I'd say I prefer Pink Floyd.

OceanAndSilence 01-31-2010 09:26 AM

floyd. a lot of sounds, yo

Unknown Soldier 01-31-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by trouserjazz (Post 818847)
Disagree with that, the Doors debut album is flawless.

I`d agree with that and along with Led Zeppelin`s debut, I think its the best debut album of all time by any band or singer!

Unknown Soldier 01-31-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 814746)
Pink Floyd easily. They were better at writing pop music and experimental music than The Doors, were more eclectic than the The Doors, and released several perfect albums unlike The Doors who released none.

The first two Doors albums are as about as perfect as it gets:bowdown: but of course that`s just a personal opinion:) The third album has some of their best ever material. The Fourth is admittedly a dud. The Fifth a step back in the right direction and the final album another masterpiece, highlighted by one of my favourite songs of all time "Riders on the Storm."

Screen13 02-01-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lizard King (Post 128889)

Ps. I am sure you probably saw the movie, but that doesnt really count for much...it was very inacurate.

I agree. It was one over-baked flick. No mention of Arthur Lee (Who suggested the band to Elektra) already clued me into just where the film was going to head. It may have looked great on the big screen, but it clearly missed the point.

Screen13 02-01-2010 09:01 PM

Pink Floyd. Here's a comparison through The Late 60's to 1971, even without going to great albums like Dark Side of the Moon and Animals which really put them in a stronger advantage.

Starting Years - Syd Barrett's Literary and Drug influenced cool English whimsy with some supersonic Psych Out Garage Punk vs. Morrison's almost convincing Literary and Drug influenced Rebel style with cool sounding Garage Punk style music backing which still kind of resembles that Lounge Act you just saw at a Steak House who sounded like they just heard The Music Machine but without getting to the edge that made the all-in-black band a one-time Garage Punk powerhouse.

1968 - Post-Barrett experimentation that goes into some very progessive areas (With "Jug Band Blues" winding up the Syd era very well) vs. Morrison's Wanna-be rebellious Politic that sounded like the "Shape of Things to Come" camp violence of Wild in the Streets...with the sound of a Lounge Act and a better singer.

1969 - Pink Floyd working on Artsy Late 60's Film soundtracks which still have some cool progressive Space Outs and some very heavy music ("The Nile Song" for More and "Come In No. 51, Your Time Is Up" for Zabriskie Point - Need I say more?) vs. The Soft Parade ("Tell All the People" starting off a very sad album that showed The Doors moving dangerously to Las Vegas territory with lyrics that could be like the poetry of a 16 Magazine reader...No more needs to be said).

1970 - Here's when The Doors finally start to really gain speed. Pink Floyd slipping quite a bit with half-inspired albums (Atom Heart Mother) vs. Morrison Hotel - Doors win this round with ease thanks to Morrison getting a full grip on his mix of Rebellion, Americana, The Blues, and his more poetic inspirations. This is where I feel he earned his reputation and when the Lounge Band sound actually gelled into something great.

1971 - Again The Doors win. Pink Floyd had "Echoes" which seriously proved their worth as Prog Legends, but when it comes to the amount of cool on the grooves, The Doors' LA Woman was a second good album in a row...then Jim went to Paris. You have to admit that at least the last two Doors albums showed quite a bit of maturity.

Still, when it all comes down to it, and adding the best parts of Barrett (and later Waters) and Morrison which gave their bands uniqueness and style, the musicianship of Pink Floyd was stronger and more forceful than The Doors, and you could even say examples of that would be the albums without their visionary songwriters - Other Voices and Full Circle remain only curious listens that showed something was missing while A Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell at least connected with a mass audience.

Lizard Queen 02-09-2010 02:16 PM

The Doors, hands down.
I do like Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall, but that's about it. I own every single Doors song, so yeah that's an easy one. Plus I've read Jim's poetry and it's great, he will always be a legend in my eyes.

boo boo 02-09-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Screen13 (Post 820304)
Pink Floyd. Here's a comparison through The Late 60's to 1971, even without going to great albums like Dark Side of the Moon and Animals which really put them in a stronger advantage.

Starting Years - Syd Barrett's Literary and Drug influenced cool English whimsy with some supersonic Psych Out Garage Punk vs. Morrison's almost convincing Literary and Drug influenced Rebel style with cool sounding Garage Punk style music backing which still kind of resembles that Lounge Act you just saw at a Steak House who sounded like they just heard The Music Machine but without getting to the edge that made the all-in-black band a one-time Garage Punk powerhouse.

1968 - Post-Barrett experimentation that goes into some very progessive areas (With "Jug Band Blues" winding up the Syd era very well) vs. Morrison's Wanna-be rebellious Politic that sounded like the "Shape of Things to Come" camp violence of Wild in the Streets...with the sound of a Lounge Act and a better singer.

1969 - Pink Floyd working on Artsy Late 60's Film soundtracks which still have some cool progressive Space Outs and some very heavy music ("The Nile Song" for More and "Come In No. 51, Your Time Is Up" for Zabriskie Point - Need I say more?) vs. The Soft Parade ("Tell All the People" starting off a very sad album that showed The Doors moving dangerously to Las Vegas territory with lyrics that could be like the poetry of a 16 Magazine reader...No more needs to be said).

1970 - Here's when The Doors finally start to really gain speed. Pink Floyd slipping quite a bit with half-inspired albums (Atom Heart Mother) vs. Morrison Hotel - Doors win this round with ease thanks to Morrison getting a full grip on his mix of Rebellion, Americana, The Blues, and his more poetic inspirations. This is where I feel he earned his reputation and when the Lounge Band sound actually gelled into something great.

1971 - Again The Doors win. Pink Floyd had "Echoes" which seriously proved their worth as Prog Legends, but when it comes to the amount of cool on the grooves, The Doors' LA Woman was a second good album in a row...then Jim went to Paris. You have to admit that at least the last two Doors albums showed quite a bit of maturity.

Still, when it all comes down to it, and adding the best parts of Barrett (and later Waters) and Morrison which gave their bands uniqueness and style, the musicianship of Pink Floyd was stronger and more forceful than The Doors, and you could even say examples of that would be the albums without their visionary songwriters - Other Voices and Full Circle remain only curious listens that showed something was missing while A Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell at least connected with a mass audience.

I prefer Pink Floyd overall but in terms of musicianship I'd say it should go to The Doors, at least if you're talking about overall musical abillity. Densmoore is a much better drummer than Mason, Manzerek has a very impressive range that people overlook, he can play lead, rhythm, ambient atmospheric stuff, and he often plays the bass parts with his left hand, Wright was also very diverse but he never put his skills on display quite as much.

I'd say Gilmour and Krieger are about equal in skill as guitarists, however Krieger can play both rhythm and lead, and he's a great improviser, Gilmour rarely improvises or plays rhythm, Krieger also has a bit more stylistic diversity while Gilmour usually sticks to blues but giving it a psychedelic touch. It terms of precision and just plain crafting kickass solos, then of course I'd have to give it to Gilmour.

Composition goes to Floyd, at least during certain periods of their career, if I were to compare the bands from when both were still active, as in from 65 to 71, then I would say The Doors had the edge.

Overall, these are very different bands and there's not much to compare them by except that they are both thought of as "stoner" bands.

mr dave 02-09-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 823987)
and he often plays the bass parts with his left hand,

this is like being impressed by a singer who can also 'play' tambourine by smashing it onto their hip.

boo boo 02-09-2010 08:55 PM

Yeah but he's good enough that they didn't need a bass player.

You try doing a 7 minute keyboard solo while playing a solid bassline at the same time, that a whole band can work around, since you make it sound so easy.

I shouldn't have said "often", he always played the bass parts except for a few tracks on the Soft Parade and Morrison Hotel, and LA Woman when they finally did get a bassist to do the job.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 813056)
Heresy!

Aww man, that's nothing. I think Division Bell is just as good as Piper if not better. :D

Hollow God 03-28-2010 06:01 PM

Thats a tough question... love both bands but I would have to choose Pink Floyd. The Wall is just about my alltime favourite album and Dark Side Of The Moon and Wish You Were Here are also in my top 20. I have to give The Doors props too though, they're great!

Unknown Soldier 03-29-2010 01:27 AM

Pink Floyd are great but the Doors are even greater.

duga 03-29-2010 01:48 AM

I think I mentioned this before, but I can't compare them. They both did different things well. There is a reason Pink Floyd are constantly classified as progressive rock...I have never heard the Doors referred to that way. With the exception of When the Music's Over or The End, I imagine most Doors songs over 10 minutes would bore me to tears. However, I also imagine that had Pink Floyd gone as keyboard-centric as the Doors were we would have a totally different opinion of their music as well.

Stinkfist 03-29-2010 04:39 AM

Floyd by a country mile, the Doors just ****in iritate me had Jim Morrison not died they would now be spoke of in the same breath as Styx.

Should have been Floyd versus King Crimson.

duga 03-29-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinkfist (Post 842830)
Floyd by a country mile, the Doors just ****in iritate me had Jim Morrison not died they would now be spoke of in the same breath as Styx.

Wow...that is harsh. I really doubt it, as well. Styx had what? A couple hits here and there? Jim Morrison was the sex icon of the 60's. I don't even remember who was in Styx. Styx was crappy generic 80's rock. The Doors were one of a kind when they showed up on the scene. I know it was just an example, but Styx? Come now. That was offensive.

Varro 04-05-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 842972)
Wow...that is harsh. I really doubt it, as well. Styx had what? A couple hits here and there? Jim Morrison was the sex icon of the 60's. I don't even remember who was in Styx. Styx was crappy generic 80's rock. The Doors were one of a kind when they showed up on the scene. I know it was just an example, but Styx? Come now. That was offensive.

I agree. That was seriously harsh.. If Morrison was alive today, he'd arrange a press conference, say nothing in the press conference, pour a bowl of corn flakes, piss in said corn flakes, and then throw said corn flakes at the journalists who showed up to his presser.


Back on topic: As far as Progressive rock is concerned, I'd have to say that Pink Floyd has been FAR more influential than the Doors. But at the same time, the Doors are iconic in their own way, and not just for Morrison's death, but for the millions and millions of screaming fans that didn't have a ****ing clue who the Beatles were. *rockfist*


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