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InvokeTheDarkAge 11-23-2006 08:31 PM

Wishbone Ash
 
there perhaps my favorite classic rock band, criminally underrated band

anyone care to discuss? want me to upload?

Muzak 11-24-2006 08:41 AM

I like them. It would have been cool I was to go to the concert too. Maybe they will come another time.

shiftael 11-24-2006 02:46 PM

Wishbonme Ash kicks so much!! Heartily agreed that they're vastly underrated.

Cheese 11-25-2006 02:57 AM

They are the only band who's live stuff appeals to me more than their studio.

Falcon 11-25-2006 10:10 AM

I really love their live version of The King Will Come. Actually, all of Argus is great.

--DreamTheater-- 11-30-2006 09:09 AM

This is quite a good band to be fair.... my dad got me into them with the Live Dates album and the song Blowin' Free which is one of the best on the album i think

Comus 04-09-2008 05:42 PM

Bumb for epic justice, Wishbone Ash are by far my favourite band and I very recently saw them live on my birthday B)

Zombeels 04-09-2008 11:50 PM

Best recommendations:

Argus
Live Dates
Wishbone Ash
Pilgrimage

Comus 04-10-2008 04:27 AM

And don't shy away from their most recent releases Clan Destiny and Power of Eternity are both brilliant.

satanic skinhead 04-10-2008 11:30 PM

I'm always meaning to look into this band. They're like Blue Oyster Cult, rgiht?

Comus 04-11-2008 06:25 AM

...no only thing they share in common is the classic rock tag.

dojo 04-11-2008 08:45 AM

Oh my, it's been years since I heard their name mentioned. Absolutely underrated, I agree with this.

lucifer_sam 07-28-2008 12:41 AM

I'm gonna give this thread new life. [Mimes CPR]

Definitely a favorite of mine.

Akira 08-25-2008 08:22 AM

Definitely a band to check out. Although they do have some great material I wouldn't class any of the albums to be truly great, though most are very good. But, they always strike me as a band who's musical abilities far outweigh their songmanship, which is good because most of their stuff ranges from good to very good.

As cliche as it is I recommend Argus as their best album.

lucifer_sam 08-25-2008 03:41 PM

Argus, There's The Rub, New England, and their s/t are pretty badass. Argus is as good or better than the other classic rock of its age, so myeah.

Dr_Rez 10-27-2008 11:13 PM


Now that is a ****ing incredible album.

Anyone have other suggestions to start, i haven't gotten to far into them yet.

Akira 10-28-2008 06:18 AM

I seem to be the only one on the planet who likes the track Handy on the debut album. Sorry, but it's just fun! Lol.

I love Wishbone Ash as stated earlier, very very underrated musicians and some great stuff in their catalogue.

Comus 05-25-2009 07:11 AM

Handy is great, it's a brilliant example of a great bass guitar song.

zeppy111 05-25-2009 01:36 PM

Argus was really interesting, yet to here another album. It is high on the agenda list though. Can't dcide which album to check out next though, just want to hear all of it!

Unknown Soldier 07-25-2009 02:26 PM

Argus one of the truly great prog albums of the early 70`s from a great band, Wishbone Ash had a haunting harmony so unique in their day, unforgettable. Thought their latter 70`s stuff pretty crap though and haven`t listened to any of their releases since, seems like Comus has recommended some of their recent stuff, so may well give them a listen.

Certif1ed 09-03-2009 09:57 AM

Argus is a great album, but Pilgrimage, its predecessor, was soooo much greater. Not as slick, granted, but straight from the soul progressive rock and roll.

Do your ears a favour and get it. It's a must-hear-before-you-die album.

And hearing takes several listens.

;0)

sidewinder 09-03-2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certif1ed (Post 728970)
Argus is a great album, but Pilgrimage, its predecessor, was soooo much greater. Not as slick, granted, but straight from the soul progressive rock and roll.

I disagree. The songwriting isn't nearly as interesting, some tracks sound too much like generic blues rock ("Jail Bait" bleh), and overall doesn't inspire the emotional reaction that Argus does for me. I should still give it another listen soon, but I'd place Argus, Wishbone Ash, and There's the Rub ahead of it, even though There's the Rub also has a couple of not-so-good tracks, the strong ones are stronger than those on Pilgrimage. It is better than Wishbone Four though. :p:

Unknown Soldier 09-03-2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certif1ed (Post 728970)
Argus is a great album, but Pilgrimage, its predecessor, was soooo much greater. Not as slick, granted, but straight from the soul progressive rock and roll.

Do your ears a favour and get it. It's a must-hear-before-you-die album.

And hearing takes several listens.

;0)

Like Sidewinder said, I didn`t think Pilgrimage was that good, sure it followed on from the first album but nowhere as solid as the first. Argus remains their definitive work.

Certif1ed 09-05-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 729045)
I disagree. The songwriting isn't nearly as interesting, some tracks sound too much like generic blues rock ("Jail Bait" bleh), and overall doesn't inspire the emotional reaction that Argus does for me. I should still give it another listen soon, but I'd place Argus, Wishbone Ash, and There's the Rub ahead of it, even though There's the Rub also has a couple of not-so-good tracks, the strong ones are stronger than those on Pilgrimage. It is better than Wishbone Four though. :p:

I don't find the songwriting more interesting on Argus, just slicker - ie with more epic direction and purpose. It's like they tamed the wild beast of Pilgrimage, and that taming to me is a weakness.

The debut is much weaker by far - you definitely need to re-listen to Pilgrimage, as it's one of those that's easy to write off as "generic blues rock", as you put it.

I need to relisten to "There's The Rub", as I find it almost unlistenable wallpaper after Argus - but then I only added it to my collection recently, so haven't had a chance to familiarise myself with it.

The beauty of Pilgrimage lies not so much in the songwriting, but in the gut musicianship - the pure rock and roll animalicity of the album. It lacks the pretension of epic songs like "Warrior", but therein lies the charm to my ears... or in this case, my gut.

Here are some reviews I wrote on the first 3 - maybe you'll find them interesting (Obviously, I can't post proper URLs yet);

hxxp://progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=211967
hxxp://progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=212568
hxxp://progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=212203

Unknown Soldier 09-05-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certif1ed (Post 730396)
I don't find the songwriting more interesting on Argus, just slicker - ie with more epic direction and purpose. It's like they tamed the wild beast of Pilgrimage, and that taming to me is a weakness.

The debut is much weaker by far - you definitely need to re-listen to Pilgrimage, as it's one of those that's easy to write off as "generic blues rock", as you put it.

I need to relisten to "There's The Rub", as I find it almost unlistenable wallpaper after Argus - but then I only added it to my collection recently, so haven't had a chance to familiarise myself with it.

The beauty of Pilgrimage lies not so much in the songwriting, but in the gut musicianship - the pure rock and roll animalicity of the album. It lacks the pretension of epic songs like "Warrior", but therein lies the charm to my ears... or in this case, my gut.

Here are some reviews I wrote on the first 3 - maybe you'll find them interesting (Obviously, I can't post proper URLs yet);

hxxp://progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=211967
hxxp://progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=212568
hxxp://progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=212203

Another person recommending Pilgrimage, looks like I`m going to have to wipe the dust off my Wishbone Ash records and give most of their stuff a listen. Always saw Pilgrimage as the weak album sandwiched between a very good album and a classic album.

sidewinder 09-05-2009 10:35 PM

I listened to Pilgrimage again a few hours ago. My original opinion (and 3/5 rating) still stands.

Vas Dis - pretty bad 2/5
The Pilgrim - good one I really enjoy 4/5
Jail Bait - I hate this boogie stuff 2/5
Alone - pretty good short instrumental but seems a bit insignificant, no real faults though 3/5
Lullaby - good smooth instrumental 4/5
Valediction - another very good track with great guitar playing and vocals 4/5
Where Were You Tomorrow - long blues rock/boogie jam I don't enjoy 2/5

So yes there are some good songs, but 3 out of the 7 songs I don't like at all, adding up to a mediocre album. The songs I like the most are ones with smooth and beautiful guitar work akin to those on Argus. That's just my preference when it comes to Wishbone Ash, which I suppose is the opposite of what attracts you to the band, Certif1ed.

Certif1ed 09-07-2009 03:08 AM

Indeed - taste is always a big factor when it comes to music, as you highlight with references to "hate" or "enjoy" without being particularly specific, so it's not really clear why you don't like the particular tracks. Not that it matters, it's just interesting when debating the various merits of what I call "quality" music, as opposed to disposable pop.

You'll note that I gave both Pilgrimage and Argus 4 stars, for different reasons - but for me, Pilgrimage is the better album.


I really like Vas Dis - reminds me of Ten Years After :D

Unknown Soldier 10-29-2012 04:25 PM

Three measly pages since 2006 for one of the most talented and best bands to have ever come out of the UK.:usehead: Not too many bands can make songs as brilliant and timeless as this.

This is breezy driving music at its best.

Wishbone Ash - Sometime World - YouTube


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