Progressive metal anyone?

LoathsomePete · 09-04-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

I can't say I have. Have you got it?

I haven't, my brother should've put it on my external hard drive when I was visiting Vancouver a few weeks ago but he didn't, I'm sure I could dig you up a link though.

BDenpy · 10-07-2009, 06:22 PM

Big Queensryche fan here. Operation Mindcrime was and is still one of the most influential albums of my lifetime.

Certif1ed · 10-08-2009, 01:32 AM

But is it really Progressive Metal, or simply a kind of concept album done in a technically slick metal style?

Unknown Soldier · 10-08-2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Certif1ed

But is it really Progressive Metal, or simply a kind of concept album done in a technically slick metal style?

Queensryche are kind of an odd group really, their stuff before Operation Mindcrime was very Iron Maiden in feel, then came Operation Mindcrime a concept album (a very good one) and seemed to have as you say a slick metal style rather than a natural metal style, but from then on albums such as Empire and Promised Land had a slick radio rock feel, much in the mould of Journey, in fact Geoff Tate sounds like Steve Perry on those albums.

Antonio · 10-08-2009, 02:29 AM

i kind of have to agree with Seltzer's posts in that i'm not too big a fan of progressive metal cause of how it tends to miss the point of what progressive music is about. still, i can fnd myself enjoying some groups here and there, Devin Townsend, Cynic, Opeth, etc.

Certif1ed · 10-08-2009, 02:59 AM

There are some Metal albums that I would describe as Progressive;

Watchtower's "Energetic Disassembly" - although I fully agree this is not "Prog" per se, rather it's a collection of outrageously technically oriented thrash riffs under a sheen of Samson-esque NWoBHM which gets old pretty quickly.

It's a fascinating listen though, especially given the time of its release - you can hear why Metallica suddenly decided to take a more technically oriented route with "...And Justice For All" in the light of such fretboard fireworks.

Naked City's self-titled album from 1990 is another fascinating listen - a mixture of Napalm Death and jazz.

In the same kind of vein (but better) is John Zorn and Fred Frith's "Art of Memory" from 1995, and Fantomas' "Suspended Animation" from 2005. Prog Archives describes these as "Avant Prog" (whatever the **** that is), but it's not - it's metal at its core.

Spastic Ink are another band well worth checking out for the "real stuff" - kind of like Watchtower done properly. Guitar wizard Ron Jarzombek has done some other impressive projects, such as Blotted Science - but none really hit the mark as well as "Ink Complete".

DanContogiannis · 10-08-2009, 11:38 AM

Ya like Blotted Science, then?

Certif1ed · 10-09-2009, 04:56 AM

I think "Am impressed by" is probably more accurate than "like"

almauro · 11-02-2009, 08:03 PM

Therion did some very entertaining Symphonic Metal, starting with "Theli", combining dm, opera, some Eastern scales as well as some acoustic folk songs. It's a big production that would make mighty fine music for a Broadway show. Pestilence is part of that early 90's group of blazing dm bands like Death, Atheist, and Cynic.

ChiliColdBlood · 11-05-2009, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DanContogiannis

Ya like Blotted Science, then?

I certainly do. Brilliant stuff.

10-07-2009, 06:22 PM	#42 (permalink)
BDenpy Groupie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	Queensryche Big Queensryche fan here. Operation Mindcrime was and is still one of the most influential albums of my lifetime.

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almauro Way Out There Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 850	Therion did some very entertaining Symphonic Metal, starting with "Theli", combining dm, opera, some Eastern scales as well as some acoustic folk songs. It's a big production that would make mighty fine music for a Broadway show. Pestilence is part of that early 90's group of blazing dm bands like Death, Atheist, and Cynic. __________________ rock n music blog

10-08-2009, 01:32 AM	#43 (permalink)
Certif1ed Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 194	But is it really Progressive Metal, or simply a kind of concept album done in a technically slick metal style?

10-08-2009, 02:59 AM	#46 (permalink)
Certif1ed Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 194	There are some Metal albums that I would describe as Progressive; Watchtower's "Energetic Disassembly" - although I fully agree this is not "Prog" per se, rather it's a collection of outrageously technically oriented thrash riffs under a sheen of Samson-esque NWoBHM which gets old pretty quickly. It's a fascinating listen though, especially given the time of its release - you can hear why Metallica suddenly decided to take a more technically oriented route with "...And Justice For All" in the light of such fretboard fireworks. Naked City's self-titled album from 1990 is another fascinating listen - a mixture of Napalm Death and jazz. In the same kind of vein (but better) is John Zorn and Fred Frith's "Art of Memory" from 1995, and Fantomas' "Suspended Animation" from 2005. Prog Archives describes these as "Avant Prog" (whatever the ** that is), but it's not - it's metal at its core. Spastic Ink are another band well worth checking out for the "real stuff" - kind of like Watchtower done properly. Guitar wizard Ron Jarzombek has done some other impressive projects, such as Blotted Science** - but none really hit the mark as well as "Ink Complete".

10-08-2009, 11:38 AM	#47 (permalink)
DanContogiannis Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 60	Ya like Blotted Science, then?

10-09-2009, 04:56 AM	#48 (permalink)
Certif1ed Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 194	I think "Am impressed by" is probably more accurate than "like"