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Originally Posted by jadis
I think your stance is admirable. I was referring to something else.
You said Elph’s accusing Zappa of being “pretentious” made no sense in light of Zappa deeming X, Y and Z “pretentious”.
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That is not what I said. I didn't say Frank just deemed them "pretentious." Zappa had a decent amount of self-awareness and often express reasonable and legitimate critism against those things mentioned. Frank Zappa didn't "deem" those things "pretentious" willy nilly and in the deeming of those thing "pretentious" thus made them so.
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Originally Posted by jadis
I didn’t see any contradiction there because you can rail against pretentiousness all you want and still fit many people’s definitions of pretentiousness. Who’s to say whose definition is the more legitimate etc. ...
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Then you reduce the meaning of "pretentiousness" to something not being liked. Frank Zappa doesn't like "X, Y, and Z" and ironically there are people who don't like Frank Zappa. Who's to say who is more disliked? ... err "
pretentious?"
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Originally Posted by mord
Actually, I like you a lot, Nea. That's why I treat you like ****. It's the MB way.
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