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Comus 10-28-2008 09:10 PM

****!

I voted other and was going to call it a toss up between Frank Zappa and Andy Powell (Wishbone Ash) but then noticed that Frank Zappa was an option :(

Roygbiv 10-29-2008 10:05 AM

I'm thinking David Gilmour for the sheer bragging rights he has.

Anteater 10-31-2008 03:10 PM

Best prog guitarist eh.

If we're going by just pure technical merit here, then Buckethead, Zappa and Fripp are the main contenders. However, if we're judging by guitar solo-wankery, then the choice becomes a lot harder...

...oh **** it, Buckethead for the win.

Trollheart 11-02-2008 07:00 AM

I have to go for Steve Rothery, cos for me he typifies the sound of the resurgence of prog in the early to late 80s, with bands like Pallas, Pendragon, IQ and of course Marillion coming more into the public consciousness. Listen to his work on "Grendel", "Chelsea Monday" or Lost weekend", and then listen to him on their current album, "Happiness is the road" -- the boy's still got it!
To paraphrase Mark Knoplfer, he can make that guitar cry or sing...

LeavingAgain 11-08-2008 10:46 AM

Mr. Gilmour

Blue 11-08-2008 10:52 AM

I honestly haven't heard that many of the guitarists on the list, but Gilmour has always been, and always will be my favorite guitarist, and biggest guitar influence, so he definately gets my pick. I love what I hear from Buckethead and Zappa though, they're both really, really great players. Buckethead has great technique, and though I haven't heard too much from his, he has interesting way of approaching the instrument and song-writing as a whole. I really should check out more of those guitarists though, I'd probably like a good lot of them.

jackhammer 11-08-2008 10:53 AM

Andy Latimer (Camel) has done some great stuff that does'nt get the kudos it deserves.

Blue 11-08-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 541998)
Andy Latimer (Camel) has done some great stuff that does'nt get the kudos it deserves.

I haven't heard much, but I've actually heard a little Camel. I don't remember the guitar work, but my old history teacher gave me one of their albums. I should go look that up, I miss it. I loved Spirit of the Water.

jackhammer 11-08-2008 11:01 AM

I have music by 18 in that list. Perhaps a compilation would be a good idea with a track by each artist?

Anteater 11-09-2008 01:43 PM

Yeah, Latimer is underrated in a big way. :(

Start with "Ice" and work your way back from there folks...

Seltzer 11-09-2008 08:10 PM

Stationary Traveller from the album of the same name is also a great piece. That's their real 80s album, but I'm still quite fond of it as it was my first Camel. :o:

Big McLargeHuge 11-11-2008 03:17 AM

Very tough choice between Zappa, Fripp, and Gilmour.

I'll... have to think about this.

kthedrummer 11-11-2008 03:26 AM

Omar Rodriguez-Lopez-he is ****ing unbelievable. They are all good but Lopez just gives me the chills when he plays.

Fruitonica 11-12-2008 08:26 PM

I went with Buckethead, I'm in love with him and I've barely scratched his discography.
But it was a tough choice between him, Fripp and Lopez, they're all brilliant.

ProggyMan 11-12-2008 08:49 PM

David Pajo anyone?

zekethefreak 11-15-2008 12:46 AM

What a tough one to answer. Gilmour plays the most "passionate" guitar, although he's not the most technical. I'd have to give it to one that's not even on the list. Trevor Rabin, who did a stint with YES would probably be MY favorite Prog guitarist. That guy is amazing.

Sister Ray 11-30-2008 07:50 PM

Tough, and I've heard 'em all.

Still voted for Gilmour.

TheCellarTapes 12-30-2008 02:41 AM

Frank Zappa for me

Angel's Punishment 12-31-2008 02:54 PM

Out of those, Zappa.

Toybox 01-05-2009 06:24 PM

Fripp was always my favorite guitarist.

boo boo 01-05-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zekethefreak (Post 545473)
What a tough one to answer. Gilmour plays the most "passionate" guitar, although he's not the most technical. I'd have to give it to one that's not even on the list. Trevor Rabin, who did a stint with YES would probably be MY favorite Prog guitarist. That guy is amazing.

Trevor Rabin? Really? He's good, but that's a shocking choice to say the least.

I love those weird solos he does though.

crash_override 04-12-2009 08:39 PM

Alex Lifeson for me, hands down. He's widely underrated simply because he's in a band with two of the best musicians to ever play their instruments. His dynamics and feeling for the mood is absolutely incredible. The three solos in 2112 show this perfectly, throughout the story which the song tells, three different moods are focused upon and Lifeson's solo work in each section of the story really shoves the emotion down your throat. One of the best and my personal favorites.

spark10036 04-12-2009 08:40 PM

I wanted to vote for Steven Wilson so badly...but I voted for David Gilmour...maybe in a decade Steven

crash_override 04-12-2009 08:46 PM

Yeah im not suprised Gilmour is dominating. I think its the obvious choice for most people.

Antonio 04-12-2009 08:47 PM

well, in my opinion, i see Mastodon and Between the Buried and Me as Progressive these days, so the lead guitarists from those bands, Brent Hinds and Paul Waggoner


i came really close to some of the other choices on the poll though

khfreek 04-13-2009 06:25 AM

I still can't believe I voted for John Petrucci back then... /facepalm

Seltzer 04-13-2009 06:31 AM

Well I was about to alter Petrucci's votes and send him spiralling into the negatives but it seems poll editing has been buggered since the forum upgrade. :(

khfreek 04-13-2009 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 636718)
Well I was about to alter Petrucci's votes and send him spiralling into the negatives but it seems poll editing has been buggered since the forum upgrade. :(

Whenever it's fixed, rescind my vote please :thumb:

boo boo 04-18-2009 07:28 PM

I'm listening to Caravan right now and I can't believe I left Pye Hastings out.

Anteater 04-20-2009 10:55 PM

Kinda wish I had voted for Fripp back then rather than Buckethead, but I definitely still like the latter....darn it! :banghead:

Kole 10-13-2009 09:54 AM

I have to say Gilmour, since Pink Floyd is my favourite band; but Akkerman was close second. I think that Jan is very underrated, as is Focus. He was a guest of Vlatko Stefanovski (Leb i Sol, Macedonian jazz fusion/prog rock band, check it out) last year in Slovenia (of course I saw the concert), he was great.

Guybrush 10-26-2009 08:55 AM

My vote would've gone to Steve Howe if Gilmour hadn't been on the list. I love his guitar sound, but none of these that I've heard can conjure up the kind of emotion in their guitar playing quite like Gilmour I think. He's distinctive and although his style has been mimicked, he does it best.

edit :

And to generate some discussion, McLaughlin's guitar playing is overrated, I think. He's good of course, but listening to Mahavishnu's Orchestra or the albums he did as part of the guitar trio (with Paco De Lucia and Al Di Meola), I tire of it quickly. Soemtimes, it's so in your face it becomes almost vulgar and annoying I think. :p:

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Here's an example .. Listen to it f.ex after the 1 minute mark :



Is it musical splendor or guitar wankery? I think there is a too big element of wankery in there and I find it somewhat disruptive. Because of this, I prefer Weather Report and Return to Forever over Mahavishnu actually.

mr dave 10-30-2009 12:05 AM

i don't think it's an issue of wankery so much as a bad production decision to mix the lead guitar track in a way that it overpowers the rest of the band. is this supposed to be a solo piece? it gets kind of wank-ish around 4 minutes in when he starts repeating himself more than anything.

the multi-tracked fuzz guitar is kind of excessive as well. it's great if you want to ripoff Black Dog, but in a group with a horn section to accentuate melodic passages it's superfluous.

Kole 10-30-2009 06:53 AM

Well, all guitarists from good jazz fusion bands are geniuses, since jazz fusion is the hardest thing to master on guitar. McLaughlin is not underrated, it's just that people in majority don't listen to jazz fusion, so he is little known (I guess?). Those who DO know Mahavishnu Orchestra (or Shakti) think of John as one of the best.

Guybrush 10-30-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 760203)
i don't think it's an issue of wankery so much as a bad production decision to mix the lead guitar track in a way that it overpowers the rest of the band. is this supposed to be a solo piece? it gets kind of wank-ish around 4 minutes in when he starts repeating himself more than anything.

the multi-tracked fuzz guitar is kind of excessive as well. it's great if you want to ripoff Black Dog, but in a group with a horn section to accentuate melodic passages it's superfluous.

That song is from Birds of Fire from 1973 which is one of the (if not the) most appreciated Mahavishnu Orchestra albums. That trademark sound is what you find on the whole record basically.

I agree that the guitar is way ahead in the mix. It's almost vulgar .. You wanna sit down in your couch and relax with a little jazz fusion and you get the impression McLaughlin is standing on the table with the guitar up in your face. Okay, that's a bit exaggerated, but I find it a bit disruptive. :p:

The way it's mixed is of course a concious choice and it's not the only Mahavishnu album with that sound.


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Originally Posted by Kole (Post 760245)
Well, all guitarists from good jazz fusion bands are geniuses, since jazz fusion is the hardest thing to master on guitar. McLaughlin is not underrated, it's just that people in majority don't listen to jazz fusion, so he is little known (I guess?). Those who DO know Mahavishnu Orchestra (or Shakti) think of John as one of the best.

I don't think he's little known - or at least not around here. I was wondering earlier why people hadn't responded more in anger to my post :p: Anyways, much of his playing doesn't sound aesthetic to me and then genius skill becomes just an interesting word or something. There's an incredible amount of amazingly skilled guitar players in the world - it's not that rare - and I tend to think of technical ability itself as a poor way to actually rate players as musicians.

I should rephr point out though, I like some of John's stuff, particularly the stuff he did with Lucia and Meola .. but I can only take so much of it in one sitting and while good, I definetly think of him as overrated and a bit of a guitar wanker in a skill over overall quality kind of way.

almauro 10-30-2009 10:41 AM

I could listen to Gilmore wail all day, but Howe is more versatile. Edge to Howe. Manzanera was very tasteful in Roxy and his side project 801.

lucifer_sam 10-30-2009 10:51 AM

McLaughlin is a little over the top, but it was his decision as a bandleader to emphasize the guitar in a sort of rock medium rather than the jazzy feel most other fusion bands inspire. while he's definitely not the best at it, there are certain times when the driven sound of his guitar actually works really well:



don't forget, McLaughlin was also part of the band that brought fusion to life with Miles Davis' Bitches Brew.

Kole 10-30-2009 03:03 PM

Or Trilogy, especially the second half - extreme guitarin'. I am not saying that he is the best; I prefer Di Meola all the way, as well as others, but I think of John as better than most of these modern prog guitarists.

Victory Guy 10-31-2009 10:30 PM

Buckethead. Bloke's a virtuoso.
Martin Barre or Jim Matheos come in second though.

Guybrush 11-07-2009 02:34 PM

I don't think Buckethead fits in this list, really. He plays a lot of stuff, nice acoustic songs, experimental rock , funk metal and even almost ambient stuff. But while some of it may have a proggy flavour, I still don't think he's prog. I mean by including him, at the same time you're excluding all the people who could just as well be in the list by the same criteria .. all those guitarists that are not labeled as prog but have sometimes sounded a bit proggy.


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