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Trollheart 01-13-2018 02:01 PM

This intro! :love:

OccultHawk 01-13-2018 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1914111)
100% agree. Both Wuthering and Trick of the Tail are great because of Hackett's presence. When he left he took the band's balls with him.


In your opinion, was Hackett the driving force behind Genesis’s progginess?

Chula Vista 01-13-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1914117)
In your opinion, was Hackett the driving force behind Genesis’s progginess?

No. Hackett, Banks, Rutherford, Collins, and Gabriel were equals in that regard. Hackett just approached the electric guitar in such a unique way, plus his nylon string stuff like in Trolls clip above was an awesome spice to the recipe now and then.

Whenever Genesis would start drifting a bit to soft or maudlin Hackett would come in with a nasty stab to keep things hard.

I only ever learned one Hackett solo note for note. The dude approached phrasing and runs like no-one else I've spent a lot of time with. Somehow he made really weird sounding **** fit perfectly into their songs.

This is the one I learned. FF to 3:08


OccultHawk 01-13-2018 02:31 PM

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No
Damn.

Trollheart 01-13-2018 03:13 PM

Yeah, when you consider he wasn't there for Trespass that becomes a harder claim to back up, but there's no doubt he kept them grounded when they looked like they were going to go full pop. It's no coincidence that the first time they really did this (allowing for the weirdly inappropriate success of "I Know What I Like" from Selling England: how did that ever become a hit?) was with And Then There Were Three, and that their most well-known song outside of prog rock is "Follow You Follow Me". Think Hackett would have stood for that?

Akai 01-13-2018 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1914040)
Gabriel > Collins

Stop musician-signalling. ;)

Trollheart 01-13-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziggy (Post 1914189)
Stop musician-signalling. ;)

If only Gabriel HAD shot an arrow into Phil!

Oriphiel 01-13-2018 05:27 PM

I foresee that this thread shall be the genesis of many a pun. I'm collin(s) it right now, it's gonna be philled with them.

grindy 01-13-2018 05:40 PM

I've come to think that "And Then There Were Three" is actually pretty good.
Looks like I'm getting old.

OccultHawk 01-13-2018 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1914274)
I foresee that this thread shall be the genesis of many a pun. I'm collin(s) it right now, it's gonna be philled with them.

That’s quite a revelation. You’re like the angel Gabriel.


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