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Fenixpunk 11-17-2005 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SiDwasGod
ur obviously too young to remember the good ol days b4 NTV oops MTV came along and destroyd the whole industry making bands like danzig,,EWWWW,,,,,hmm lets go from punk to hardcore since thats where the money is.....good job danzig,,SELL OUT !!!!!!!!! hence the reason i refuse to go to shows..hmm how much is the going rate for a danzig ticket these days..30-40 bux

MTV and the industry didnt start making money off of punk right away, you should know that being were pretty much the same age. It was all about the hair metal and 80s synch rock back then. when MTV first came out what punk bands were they selling? what punk bands were heard on the radio? very VERY few..ramones, clash, some sex pistols....im not as young as you think i am. I remember getting hassled by jocks, cops, and everyone else for being punk, and standing out in a crowd, watched like a hawk everytime I go anywhere. but i still dont get the point you are trying to make? why would i spend 30-40 bux to see danzig when i can see a real punk band for 5-10?

jibber 11-18-2005 10:08 PM

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ur obviously too young to remember the good ol days b4 NTV oops MTV came along and destroyd the whole industry making bands like danzig,,EWWWW,,,,,hmm lets go from punk to hardcore since thats where the money is.....good job danzig,,SELL OUT !!!!!!!!! hence the reason i refuse to go to shows..hmm how much is the going rate for a danzig ticket these days..30-40 bux
Hey buddy, time to learn how to type properly. At eight years old it's acceptable to use "ur", "b4", and "bux". Then there comes a time when you've got to grow up and learn propper spelling. Now, to ease you into this, I'm going to give you an example, and put the changes in bold type.

"You're obviously too young to remember the good old days before MTV (there's a delete button for a reason, use it if you make a typo) came along and destroyed the whole industry."

now, sentence structure is a whole other lesson, but maybe we should take it in baby steps.

boo boo 11-18-2005 10:29 PM

Rolling Stone and the media did exploit punk, which is why we have pop punk today...They praised punk for being a alternative to corperate rock, but they helped turn punk into just that, corperate rock, the mainstream carnation of punk as we know it today (aka pop punk) embodys everything that punk originaly stood against in the first place.

sleepy jack 11-18-2005 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Rolling Stone and the media did exploit punk, which is why we have pop punk today...They praised punk for being a alternative to corperate rock, but they helped turn punk into just that, corperate rock, the mainstream carnation of punk as we know it today (aka pop punk) embodys everything that punk originaly stood against in the first place.

Its not pop punk its pop rock or MTV punk.

Electric Eye 11-19-2005 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk
Its not pop punk its pop rock or MTV punk.

pop rock is broader, because stuff like weezer is pop rock to. So pop punk is the right genra.

sleepy jack 11-19-2005 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Electric Eye
pop rock is broader, because stuff like weezer is pop rock to. So pop punk is the right genra.

Compare weezer.
To these "pop punk" bands that i call pop rock.
They sound alike.

sexy_drug 12-06-2005 02:26 AM

In my opion,

1. Punk music died the moment it started to get recornised. It got raped to death and its deseased corpse is still being raped

2. For the bit that said something about how everything has been made mainstream, well thats one of the points behind punk that this wasnt supposed to happen, but yet the mainstream industry got its hands on it (thats how it died, see my first statement)

3. Punk is about the music, the additude AND the clothing

4. Pop punk is a condradiction, it wouldnt really have anything to do with being called punk, more just punk influenced rock

I think thats about it

P.S. I love the irony that, the people from the start were saying how punk was dead and then comes along a guy called Alexisonfire, and he argues that its not dead and stuff. But isnt Alex Is On Fire a punk influenced rock/Screamo band?

boo boo 12-06-2005 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
Its not pop punk its pop rock or MTV punk.

Whats the difference?

sleepy jack 12-06-2005 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sexy_drug
In my opion,

1. Punk music died the moment it started to get recornised. It got raped to death and its deseased corpse is still being raped

2. For the bit that said something about how everything has been made mainstream, well thats one of the points behind punk that this wasnt supposed to happen, but yet the mainstream industry got its hands on it (thats how it died, see my first statement)

3. Punk is about the music, the additude AND the clothing

4. Pop punk is a condradiction, it wouldnt really have anything to do with being called punk, more just punk influenced rock

I think thats about it

P.S. I love the irony that, the people from the start were saying how punk was dead and then comes along a guy called Alexisonfire, and he argues that its not dead and stuff. But isnt Alex Is On Fire a punk influenced rock/Screamo band?


Punk is about clothing you moron.
And i dont see how my name has anything to do with my opinion.
Its not dead its underground.


EDIT: wait...when i had a poison the well avatar and underoath lyrics in my signature my opinion was more valid just because i had the misfits in my name?

cardboard adolescent 12-06-2005 02:36 PM

If punk really was more about the attitude and clothing than the music, then fuck it. I like the music, but I'll dress and think however I want to.

deadkennediespunk 12-06-2005 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by runawaymylilnightmare
um....half of those bands are screamo bands...and aren't categorized as punk except for idiots who place everything in the same category.....

http://www.punksnotdeadthemovie.com/...ast_bands.html-went to the site good link to find new music.....

moron this is a thread saying why the hell are they in a punk movie

sleepy jack 12-06-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by deadkennediespunk
moron this is a thread saying why the hell are they in a punk movie

Lolz a moron callin' someone a moron.

sexy_drug 12-06-2005 10:06 PM

O.k, I understand where you guys are coming from and that was just my opion.

And Alexisonfire, Im not saying anything about your opion, its just funny with the name and all

Leady 12-12-2005 08:20 AM

I dont care what people say punk is still here and its not goin anywhere for a long time!

sexy_drug 12-12-2005 02:05 PM

^We know it is, they dont normally move dead things around

Leady 12-13-2005 10:09 AM

heh heh heh

half_baked87 12-14-2005 05:02 PM

that was cold, oh so cold. punk rock is still alive, unfortunatley its been bought into. but there are survivors out there

deadkennediespunk 12-15-2005 04:12 PM

mike quit being a as$hole

but canada is awsome but i dont know how you would know you've never been to canada

mosesandtherubberducky 12-15-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism
hahah dkp= a skanky ass street hokker lesbo ****

join the army.

of darkness

legionares
support canada
join the royal canadian mounties

skank jacob smells like blub



I thought you quit?

cardboard adolescent 12-15-2005 05:46 PM

Army of Darkness is a good movie.

"this is my boom-stick!"

mosesandtherubberducky 12-15-2005 07:44 PM

By any chance are you trying to get banned?

tdoc210 12-15-2005 07:53 PM

umm i know the rules ive been here since what july god ive been banned before for being stupid but mi dont think anyone minds me insulting him

deadkennediespunk 12-19-2005 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism
hahah dkp= a skanky ass street hokker lesbo ****

join the army.

of darkness

legionares
support canada
join the royal canadian mounties

skank jacob smells like blub


what does this have to do with the thread

anticipation 12-20-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellhound-138
This thing is so inaccurate, punk is dead and these are the bands that killed it:
the ataris, good charlotte, green day, my chemical romance, the offspring, pennywise, rancid, simple plan, sum 41, thrice, the used, alkaline trio, yellowcard, and a few more. All of wich are on this and are classified as punk by the poseurs who made this. This is not a valid list of punk bands http://www.punksnotdeadthemovie.com/...ast_bands.html, do not buy this trash, its just another way for these bastards to make money off of this great and influential genre.


punk was dead way before that.




The Cure killed punk.

sleepy jack 12-20-2005 02:52 PM

No, bitch.
I killed punk.

cardboard adolescent 12-20-2005 03:11 PM

Punk killed itself.

See Public Image Ltd.

anticipation 12-21-2005 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
No, bitch.
I killed punk.


"While it was suckin my ****
punk heard a click-click
i blasted its head
and den it was dead"




Word

sleepy jack 12-21-2005 04:03 PM

Word up!

TrampInaTux 12-22-2005 11:30 AM

How can you say Punk has been killed if it is not open to the mainstream anyway? Surely that if less and less people listen to Punk the more Punk that it is? How can you be so selfish as to say that the mainstream can't listen to Punk? Didn't bands like Nirvana, whom are Gods of Punk, take to the mainstream and get a No.1 Billboard album with Nevermind? I doubt that those who like Good Charlotte and bands like that will like the 'real' punk bands anyway. They will probably stay in that 'Poppy-punk' demographic that so many of us despise...

sleepy jack 12-22-2005 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hobojesus
In my opinion-all pop bands are bad. They can't write songs, they can't sing the songs. You never see a rapper miming the words to songs do you? Same with Punk. That's why they are talented. And that is why pop bands are not. Case closed.

I think that says how much opinion you have on this matter.
So shutup and educate yourself and dont speak.
Nirvana gods of punk? Christ kid.

Greenrevolution 12-31-2005 09:43 AM

New Green day Is killing punk(with the help of other ****ty bands) but keep this in mind, The early years(89' to 97') are Punk. Sure they sold out a few times in those years but so did the Ramones,the clash and the sex pistols. They are personally,my favorite band but they are killing punk with there eye shadow and dumb**** ties and ****.

Greenrevolution 12-31-2005 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
I think that says how much opinion you have on this matter.
So shutup and educate yourself and dont speak.
Nirvana gods of punk? Christ kid.

ahahaha nirvana wasnt punk at all

Mr Sensitive 12-31-2005 10:56 AM

Punk is dead, I'm dacing on it's rotting corpse right now.

mosesandtherubberducky 12-31-2005 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Sensitive
Punk is dead, I'm dacing on it's rotting corpse right now.


You aren't that sensitive come to think of it. You are rather mean and dark. Go listen to Radiohead and shut up.

Mr Sensitive 12-31-2005 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky
You aren't that sensitive come to think of it. You are rather mean and dark. Go listen to Radiohead and shut up.

Wow, nothing gets by you!

I have a better idea, I'll listen to Radiohead, and keep posting, that way I will still have the pleasure of making everyone's life on this forum more meaningful by gracing them with my presence.

mosesandtherubberducky 12-31-2005 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Sensitive
Wow, nothing gets by you!

I have a better idea, I'll listen to Radiohead, and keep posting, that way I will still have the pleasure of making everyone's life on this forum more meaningful by gracing them with my presence.



How is making off topic posts almost everytime you post make your presence better than anyone's?

It was funny at first but the whole act is getting rather annoying. You are a close-minded loser. If you don't want to be on here then quit being a bitch about it and leave no one will miss you.

Mr Sensitive 12-31-2005 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky
How is making off topic posts almost everytime you post make your presence better than anyone's?

It was funny at first but the whole act is getting rather annoying. You are a close-minded loser. If you don't want to be on here then quit being a bitch about it and leave no one will miss you.

I never said I didn't want to be here, and also I didn't think the post I made was off topic. This thread is about punk being dead or not and I was letting everyone know that I am doing the Bunny Hug on punk's decaying corpse. Also, I am not putting on an act, this is me in a good mood. Also the reason my presence matters is because I say what I really think and what my real opinions are, I don't conform to the ways of the majority and people here seem to not like that fact. Sure I may closed-minded, ignorant or rude in your eyes, but I at least am straight with all of you, I don't lie to get on someones good side. There are people here I don't like, and people here I do.

And why in God's name did you quote my text in yellow?

purevolume.com/livewall 01-01-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexisonfire
Your perfectly right there most people i know who were into punk listen to blink 182 and good charlotte thought they were punk then started looking for more punk bands and they stumble upon the ramones and DK and such.

From that aspect its pefectly logical why the bands are there they're the gateway drug to punk and alot of people still consider them pop punk and probaly the person that made this video does.


But you gotta listen to Suicidal Tendencies or Black Flag

Anyone watch the movie Repo man? Its old and it has all the punk classics.

TrampInaTux 01-02-2006 04:33 AM

I still stand by my original argument. And what are you talking about Nirvana aren't Punk? I'm going to go all fanboy here and say that you can shut up, because Nirvana did so much for Punk and they are still the best Punk band to have ever lived. You Punk fans just hate to see a band become popular by the mainstream, and when it does you disown them and then start talking about how you hate them. Immature.

mosesandtherubberducky 01-02-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hobojesus
I still stand by my original argument. And what are you talking about Nirvana aren't Punk? I'm going to go all fanboy here and say that you can shut up, because Nirvana did so much for Punk and they are still the best Punk band to have ever lived. You Punk fans just hate to see a band become popular by the mainstream, and when it does you disown them and then start talking about how you hate them. Immature.



Nirvana didn't do jack for punk. Dead Kennedys, Ramones, and The New York Dolls did a lot for punk. Quit trying to sound like a know-it-all and accept the fact that you are wrong. Nirvana was grunge, is grunge, and will always be grunge. And most of the time when a band goes mainstream they lose their selves in the hype created for them. SOAD is a prime example. So is Green Day. You are wrong end of story.


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