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sleepy jack 06-16-2007 07:13 PM

Jawbreaker
 
My favorite punk band ever, Dear You is amazing. I also have Bivouac and 24 Hour Revenge Therapy. Accident Prone is my favorite song, Blake is an amazing songwriter.

Recommendations:
Accident Prone
Jinx Remover
Chesterfield King
Sluttering (May 4th)

www.myspace.com/jawbreaker

655321 06-16-2007 07:26 PM

i really like jawbreaker oddly enough you have the same cds by them as i do except bivouac is a record

swim 06-16-2007 07:34 PM

The problem with this band is that their name is much too close to the amazing Jawbox. That means that I don't listen to them that much because I see For Your Own Special Sweetheart and spin that instead.

sleepy jack 06-16-2007 08:48 PM

"24 Hour Revenge Therapy"
hxxp://www.mediafire.com/?7dgmtmdqmve

"Bivouac"
hxxp://www.mediafire.com/?1gmdmdm2zed

"Dear You"
hxxp://www.mediafire.com/?8nbl1o09nut

I think I have the one with the cat on it to laying around somewhere, if I find it and if thats even by them cause I don't remember I think it is, i'll upload it.

Loser 06-16-2007 08:57 PM

music banter + jawbreaker thread = awsomeness =D

Bane of your existence 06-17-2007 12:54 AM

Yes yes! And Jawbreaker > Jawbox.

I'm really stoked about the DVD coming out. Everything they've ever done outside of Etc. is the ****.
Also, Jets to Brazil is the cat's meow.

Alexander the Grape 06-17-2007 05:26 PM

I ****ing love them. One of my favorite bands of all time.

Unfun is another really good album by them. Thats the one with the cat:
hxxp://www.megaupload.com/?d=68SYBZLW (stolen from that emo list)

Unfortunately the only Jets to Brazil CD I can listen to is their first one, Orange Rhyming Dictionary.

cardboard adolescent 06-17-2007 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimintheundertow (Post 374598)
The problem with this band is that their name is much too close to the amazing Jawbox. That means that I don't listen to them that much because I see For Your Own Special Sweetheart and spin that instead.

Any chance you could upload that ? :)

swim 06-17-2007 05:38 PM

I just found this link so check the tracklist and if there's a problem I can up mine.
FYOSS.zip

cardboard adolescent 06-17-2007 06:01 PM

Looks good, thanks!

swim 06-20-2007 06:27 AM

Jawbreaker promo cassette tape

If I really liked this band I'd bid the 99c just because no one looks at the tapes.

White Lies 06-21-2007 04:04 AM

Jawbreaker used to be my favourite band, for a while. Haven't listened to them for ages though

garbanzo 03-10-2009 07:15 AM

has anyone heard Blake's new band, Thorns of Life? all i can find is a couple ****ty mobile phone videos of them playing little venues. they're self-recording an album right now, i can't wait till it's released!

they seem to be someplace between Jawbreaker and Jets to Brazil. it's a very familiar sound (hard to escape from with that voice he's got), and i think it's gonna be good.

Alfred 03-10-2009 02:44 PM

http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice...s/20020527.gif

Anyway, Jawbreaker is pretty sick, I like them a lot.

bannister 07-25-2010 10:38 PM

Sorry to resurrect a seemingly dead thread, but I'm dissapointed that Jawbreaker isn't getting that much love here on MB. I ****ing love this band so much.

Even though practically everyone hates Dear You, it's my favorite album by far. The tracks Basilica and Chemistry off of it are amazing lyrically.

DoctorSoft 07-25-2010 10:57 PM

^ Even though Dear You isn't my favourite it's still a pretty underrated album. It has some of my favourite Jawbreaker songs on it.

bannister 07-25-2010 11:07 PM

Yeah, a lot of mine too. I still love Bivouac and 24 Hour Revenge Therapy, but Dear You was my first album of theirs' and it'll always be my favorite.

Etc. doesn't get the credit it deserves, either. Lots of good B-sides there.

bob. 07-25-2010 11:10 PM

i think the problem with Dear You is basically the kind of 90's scene punk mentality....it was produced, sounded good, and was on a MAJOR!!!!!!!!....and even though years later DGC dropped the rights to the record and the members of Jawbreaker re-received the rights to re-release...and did with those really great bonus tracks...."Shirt" is one of my all time favorite tracks

beleive it or not it was a real pain in the ass to find a copy of Dear You in the late 90's early 2000's...simply because DGC binned it....but still was under contract for the rights

so basically i think it's underrated mainly due to the fact that there is professional production....but it was the hardest to find Jawbreaker album for a while

persoanlly i think its a great album....but not as good as 24 Hour Revenge Therapy...


*edit...ECT. has Kiss The Bottle...nuf said

bannister 07-25-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 907088)
i think the problem with Dear You is basically the kind of 90's scene punk mentality....it was produced, sounded good, and was on a MAJOR!!!!!!!!....and even though years later DGC dropped the rights to the record and the members of Jawbreaker re-received the rights to re-release...and did with those really great bonus tracks...."Shirt" is one of my all time favorite tracks

beleive it or not it was a real pain in the ass to find a copy of Dear You in the late 90's early 2000's...simply because DGC binned it....but still was under contract for the rights

so basically i think it's underrated mainly due to the fact that there is professional production....but it was the hardest to find Jawbreaker album for a while

persoanlly i think its a great album....but not as good as 24 Hour Revenge Therapy...


*edit...ECT. has Kiss The Bottle...nuf said

Yeah, **** DGC, honestly. I bought the Blackball reissue a few years after it came out, when I first heard Fireman; I got lucky. Haha.

I do agree that the scene mentality had a lot to do with it being underrated though, "alternative" was trendy then and a lot of the record companies at the time were beginning to capitalize on it by plucking up "underground" bands (DGC also signed Nirvana and, I think, Sonic Youth in the 90's). A lot of the fans probably felt betrayed.

It's still a really great album, though. Not even close to as mediocre as a lot of the crap that came out that decade from other bands that were trying to cash in.

bob. 07-28-2010 11:35 AM

considering your location says "east bay" did you by chance make it to the Thorns of Life show at Gilman a couple years back?....i have the recording which is unfortunately the only recording of them...unless the album gets released.....and they were so good....real shame they broke up so quick

Violent & Funky 07-28-2010 12:27 PM

I DL'd 24 Hour Revenge Therapy a few months back and though it was decent enough but it didn't really standout and grab my attention...

bannister 07-28-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 908276)
considering your location says "east bay" did you by chance make it to the Thorns of Life show at Gilman a couple years back?....i have the recording which is unfortunately the only recording of them...unless the album gets released.....and they were so good....real shame they broke up so quick

Was it in January? I drooled myself silly over that show, but never did make it down to Berkeley. It's kind of a bitch too because they were doing all these shows around me (I think they did SF and Santa Rosa too) and I really wanted to see them, but I never had the time/gas/money. And then, of course, they broke up a few months later and now Blake's playing with forgetters.

I really haven't looked into them yet because of their pretentious-ass name.

bob. 07-29-2010 02:21 PM

yeah those shows....its actually a real shame they broke up....as the recording of the Gilman show is really good....nice to see Blake playing punk rock again...don't get me wrong i love Jets To Brazil....it's just nice to hear faster tunes....whats crazy is they actually recorded an album....there must be masters so hopefully it gets released or at least leaked out somehow :)

YouTube - THORNS OF LIFE @ 924 Gilman PART 1
^you can watch the entire show...good quality too

hopefully forgetters actually pans out...i havn't heard any news

Violent & Funky...i don't know if 24 hour revenge therapy is the best place to start...its by far my absolute favorite Jawbreaker album...but Dear You is much cleaner and has better sound and recording....

bannister 07-29-2010 02:34 PM

Sweet, thanks for the link. I'm glad someone was smart and snagged a recording... I'm watching it now and am slowly falling in love.

Let's hope the album gets leaked or released eventually. I'm gonna be severely dissapointed if it doesn't.

bob. 07-30-2010 11:05 AM

i have a copy of that recording....if you need it uploaded....it's pretty available online

did you know that Blake won best looking professor of Hunter College a couple years back?

"Yes, the documentary is still on, still being made. The hold up is that Keith and Tim have yet to find a distributor who is willing to pony up the closing costs to finish this thing (flights, editing time, blowing it up to 35mm. etc.). So they are doing this as a labor of love in between their regular gigs and family time. I trust this love bodes well for the finished product. A few months back they came to SF and we got some really great footage with all three of us and Billy Anderson (who worked on Bivouac, 24 Hour Revenge Therapy and a couple one-offs as a producer/engineer). We even played together, but didn't roll footage out of both respect for the sanctity of the moment and fear that we'd suck. Anyway, I have audio of it. Maybe I'll post that some day."

i can't wait for this documentary to surface

bannister 08-02-2010 05:18 PM

Ha. No, I didn't know that. That's kind of funny, I never thought he was that attractive. :P

I can't wait for the documentary, either. I'm hoping it gets finished soon.

Forgetters: S/t | Midheaven Mailorder

^ New forgetters coming out in late September. Their first release. I don't have the ten bucks for it, but I'm pretty interested in how it's going to sound.

VEGANGELICA 08-19-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bannister (Post 907073)
Sorry to resurrect a seemingly dead thread, but I'm dissapointed that Jawbreaker isn't getting that much love here on MB. I ****ing love this band so much.

Even though practically everyone hates Dear You, it's my favorite album by far. The tracks Basilica and Chemistry off of it are amazing lyrically.

Bannister, I listened to Basilica, Chemistry, and some other Jawbreaker songs off their myspace (Bivouac, Chesterfield King, Accident Prone and others). I felt they play very proficiently, but the songs seemed a little generic to me, not much different from others I've heard in this genre. I wished the guitar parts had more creative solo sections or more playful interplay with the vocal line. Plus, I'm not so fond of the lead singer's voice.

Maybe my not-so-enthusiastic response to Jawbreaker is that I was comparing them to music by All, which I was also listening to today on their myspace. All's music sounds similar, although All seems to play mostly light and somewhat humorous love songs! I prefer All's songs because I feel they use more peculiar chord patterns that make the music more distinctive to me than Jawbreaker's.

Here, maybe you can hear what I mean by comparing two songs I like from Jawbreaker and All that I feel sound similar, but I like the All song more:

Jawbreaker - Want



All - Million Bucks (I prefer this song, despite it being sappy love song, which amuses me, because the instrumentals wouldn't make me expect a love song, and the singers don't look at all lovey dovey. I like the bass and guitar lines very much!)


bob. 08-19-2010 02:03 PM

personally i love both All and Jawbreaker....and although they both get lumped in the same broad category i think they are pretty different in lyrical intent and musically

All is just straight forward good times and as you said take a light hearted approach....with great poppy songs....even when dealing with kind sad subjects...really noticeable in their early days when Dave Smalley was doing vocals


whereas Jawbreaker takes a bit of darker more depressive approach


and yeah it's hard to like Jawbreaker if you don't like Blake's voice....it's pretty unique...

VEGANGELICA 08-19-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob. (Post 920354)
personally i love both All and Jawbreaker....and although they both get lumped in the same broad category i think they are pretty different in lyrical intent and musically
All is just straight forward good times and as you said take a light hearted approach....with great poppy songs....even when dealing with kind sad subjects...really noticeable in their early days when Dave Smalley was doing vocals

whereas Jawbreaker takes a bit of darker more depressive approach

and yeah it's hard to like Jawbreaker if you don't like Blake's voice....it's pretty unique...

I agree, bob, that based on the songs I've heard, Jawbreaker definitely has a more poetic and depressive approach in their lyrics, which I prefer to the simpler ones of All, which are *very* poppy but kind of sweet in an eye-rollingly simple way.

For example, I like these lines from Jawbreaker's Condition Oakland: "There's keys in their eyes but they lock from the inside." And I like these lines from Basilica: "You can't have a flower of stone. Never let this soil come between us. I'm asking you on a date for the rest of your life."

Meanwhile, All is singing in Just Perfect: "I'm the only one who can make you see that you're the only girl in the world for me." Groan! So super sweet it is almost cloying.

Musically, it sounds to me as if Jawbreaker plays more with changing time signatures...a little bit more like Rush...which is nice, but even in Condition Oakland the song seems based on fairly predictable guitar chords in harmony with the singer's voice, without as much going on compared to in the All song, where I can hear the guitar toodling along every once in a while with more individuality or personality compared to in the Jawbreaker song. Maybe I just like songs where the guitar parts do their own thing and are in more of a duet with the singer.

Mind you, all this is based on my only listening to some of the songs of the groups, not all of them! So, my opinion might change. What do you hear as the main musical difference between the two groups (focusing on what the instruments are doing)?

bob. 08-20-2010 09:55 AM

so here i am trying to listen to both All and Jawbreaker in an attempt to break down the musical differences for you....and i'm listening to Descendents

so i'll say this Jawbreaker is straight forward three chord punk rock...every now and then they pull out more harmony....but really their major appeal is in their lyrics

All is a group of seasoned musicians "all" of which were in one of the greatest bands ever to come from the LA punk scene of the 80s and by far one of the more unique in the fact that they add musical harmony to their music....All continued this...plus they wrote what is in my opinion one of the greatest punk rock songs ever


i would take Descendents any day over both

VEGANGELICA 08-20-2010 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob. (Post 920785)
so here i am trying to listen to both All and Jawbreaker in an attempt to break down the musical differences for you....and i'm listening to Descendents

so i'll say this Jawbreaker is straight forward three chord punk rock...every now and then they pull out more harmony....but really their major appeal is in their lyrics

All is a group of seasoned musicians "all" of which were in one of the greatest bands ever to come from the LA punk scene of the 80s and by far one of the more unique in the fact that they add musical harmony to their music....All continued this...plus they wrote what is in my opinion one of the greatest punk rock songs ever

i would take Descendent any day over both

Thanks for taking the time to break it down for me, bob! I hear people complain about punk that it is musically too simplistic, so I appreciate what All is trying to do by adding more harmonies.

And now I'm listening to the Descendents' songs on myspace! Descendents definitely sound peppier and happier than Jawbreaker, with more political/social messages in their lyrics (like in 'Merican), and more complicated melodies. And their songs sound much more like popular music (with catchy hooks and a fairly simple verse/chorus structure).

I'm glad you mentioned them. I like comparing the different sounds of these groups, trying to figure out what elements I like the most from each. So far of the Descendents songs I've heard, I like "I'm the one" best, I think, due to the instrumentals. If I could merge the groups, I think I'd take All's instrumentals merged with Descendents' lyrics, merged with more touches of Jawbreaker's somber feeling.

bannister 08-22-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 920315)
Bannister, I listened to Basilica, Chemistry, and some other Jawbreaker songs off their myspace (Bivouac, Chesterfield King, Accident Prone and others). I felt they play very proficiently, but the songs seemed a little generic to me, not much different from others I've heard in this genre. I wished the guitar parts had more creative solo sections or more playful interplay with the vocal line. Plus, I'm not so fond of the lead singer's voice.

I'm glad you checked 'em out, even though you didn't like them as much as you did All. I like both All and Jawbreaker, but, like bob said, they're pretty different musically. Jawbreaker's guitar begins to all sound the same after a while, even in their more poppy songs.

Also, I didn't like Blake's voice much at first either, but it grew on me after a couple of listens. The lyrics helped a lot, too, so I'm glad you liked some of them. (:

kim_nokiamusic 08-24-2010 05:13 AM

I have never heard anyone describe Jawbreaker as generic before. I can understand the Blake's voice thing a little though. Although it sounds completely different depending on which record you're listening to.

noise 07-20-2011 07:12 PM

Just found out about forgetters, I had no idea Blake was doing something new. Guess I've been living under a rock.

Anyway I found me a copy, and it sounds good!

Never got to see Jawbreaker, but I did catch a Jets show once, it was absolutely brilliant.

bob. 07-20-2011 09:04 PM

heck ya....that forgetters EP is a great album.....Blake was also in a short lived band called "Thorns Of Life" with Crimpshrine drummer (and famous zinester) Aaron Cometbus and an actress from th L Word....unfortunately they broke up after a few west coast shows and a few shows in nyc....but someone recorded their show at Gilman St. and it's actully a great recording....it's floating around online...but if you can't find it let me know and i'll up my copy

noise 07-20-2011 10:37 PM

Hey thanks for the heads up. I found the show, I'll check it out.

[MERIT] 07-22-2011 08:04 PM

I'm not too familiar, but from what I've heard "Do You Still Hate Me?" is my favorite. I am a bigger fan of Jets To Brazil though. Played some of their tunes at my wedding :)

bob. 07-22-2011 08:51 PM

Sweet Ave.?

:)

[MERIT] 07-22-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1088013)
Sweet Ave.?

:)

Yes! And "Lucky Charm" (Walk Slow)

GuD 08-10-2017 09:42 PM

They're touring again. News of this was announced in April earlier this year. I was probably asleep in the rain when that happened. Argh. Homelessness. And now the SF show is sold out. Much sad. Anyways, I'm sure there's other fans on the board. Get your tix before they sell out. They're playing Riot Fest in Chicago.


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