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Janszoon 01-04-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 794420)
I'd say it happened before that. Loads of thrash metal bands were wearing Misfits shirts long before Danzig released anything as a solo artist.

That's certainly how I became aware of them.

Do you agree about how weird the huge increase in popularity over the years has been though?

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-04-2010 03:12 PM

Yes & No really

I think it's more down to having a distinctive image that's sell-able rather than being about the actual music. A bit like the Motorhead skull or the Led Zeppelin angel or Iron Maiden's Eddie.

I've seen all 4 in being sold in high street clothing stores, and i'm not talking about the ones that sell band shirts either.

duga 01-04-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 794435)
Yes & No really

I think it's more down to having a distinctive image that's sell-able rather than being about the actual music. A bit like the Motorhead skull or the Led Zeppelin angel or Iron Maiden's Eddie.

I've seen all 4 in being sold in high street clothing stores, and i'm not talking about the ones that sell band shirts either.

yep...makes me feel bad to have a shirt by any of those bands...

Arya Stark 01-04-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 794435)
Yes & No really

I think it's more down to having a distinctive image that's sell-able rather than being about the actual music. A bit like the Motorhead skull or the Led Zeppelin angel or Iron Maiden's Eddie.

I've seen all 4 in being sold in high street clothing stores, and i'm not talking about the ones that sell band shirts either.

I see the Misfits skull around way more often than any of the three images you mentioned. When I was introduces to Iron Maiden's Eddie, it was after I knew of the band. I saw the Misfits skull on various occasions well before I knew the band.

The other two you mentioned aren't familiar to me at all, really.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-04-2010 03:45 PM

http://www.perfectporridge.com/wp-co...dzep-angel.jpg

http://www.thegauntlet.com/photos/mo...aggletooth.jpg

Those

Arya Stark 01-04-2010 03:46 PM

The first one, I know now.
But you didn't reply to anything else I said. xD

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-04-2010 03:49 PM

Well I was aware of those images long before I heard any music by any of those bands which is why I mentioned them.

Plus all the others are British bands so that maybe why you see more Misfits designs than those. I'd say here it's about equal.

Arya Stark 01-04-2010 03:50 PM

Hm. But those two bands are still really popular here, do you know what I mean?
I hear about those bands more often than Misfits, but I see the Misfits image more often than the rest.

sidewinder 01-04-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 794418)
Graves was just a hired gun who was recruited when Jerry Only and Doyle reformed the band and is no longer a member so you can't blame him too much. It's really all on Jerry Only and to a lesser extent Doyle. They should never have resurrected the band.

Well I'm no expert on the post-Danzig era, I only threw out names because he asked. :p:

Engine 01-04-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 794455)
Well I was aware of those images long before I heard any music by any of those bands which is why I mentioned them.

Plus all the others are British bands so that maybe why you see more Misfits designs than those. I'd say here it's about equal.

I haven't seen any of those images in expensive retail shops but I've definitely seen the Misfits thing in the young American mall culture for the past 15 years or so. Until this thread, I had no idea that those kids don't even know the original Misfits albums(?!) - for shame - I thought kids knew better..
When I was, um, mall age I used to see the Zeppelin angel, Eddie, and Motorhead thing everywhere - but this was not so much a hipster thing as there were just lots of metalheads everywhere and they were into those bands. God, I saw the Zeppelin thing on probably hundreds of jackets, t-shirts and bumper stickers when I was a kid. In fact it was years before I knew Zeppelin and Motorhead were not American.

sidewinder 01-05-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 794548)
When I was, um, mall age I used to see the Zeppelin angel, Eddie, and Motorhead thing everywhere - but this was not so much a hipster thing as there were just lots of metalheads everywhere and they were into those bands. God, I saw the Zeppelin thing on probably hundreds of jackets, t-shirts and bumper stickers when I was a kid. In fact it was years before I knew Zeppelin and Motorhead were not American.

You're absolutely right...back then people actually listened to the bands they promoted on their t-shirts & jackets. They/we weren't concerned with trying to be ironic or hip like today's kids.

TheJames 03-16-2010 11:03 PM

yes, I think The Misfits were influential. for the simple fact of AFI

Sansa Stark 03-17-2010 12:42 AM

Too bad AFI is ****ing terrible

Arya Stark 03-17-2010 12:56 AM

Wait, how is AFI a fact?

tgpo 03-20-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 837933)
Wait, how is AFI a fact?

They're a perfect example of the fact that a halfway decent punk band can go to crap in the span of 1 album.

Arya Stark 03-20-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tgpo (Post 839524)
They're a perfect example of the fact that a halfway decent punk band can go to crap in the span of 1 album.

Yeah but he said the Misfits are influential for the simple fact of AFI.

tgpo 03-21-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 839535)
Yeah but he said the Misfits are influential for the simple fact of AFI.

Probably referencing AFI's pseudo Horror Punk era.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 03-23-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Rotter (Post 840574)
their music afterall is kinda subpare when compared to other punk heavyweights.

have you listened to earth A.D???

tgpo 03-24-2010 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Rotter (Post 840647)
I don't think the technical talent was there compared to some of the other big hardcore acts.

Who cares about technical talent. The best bass player in the world may be a guy playing open E 700x because that's what fits best with the band. It's not about playing difficult licks or technical proficient runs, it's about expressing your thoughts and ideas through music.

And if the Misfits did that with 2 chords and a crappy melody, then so be it.

Janszoon 03-24-2010 08:06 AM

Yeah, I find it a little strange to be discussing technical chops with regard to a punk band.

Insane Guest 03-24-2010 11:44 AM

They are influential, they created a new punk genre. They revolutionized punk. Plus, the logo is badass. Being a Misfits fan, they are the reason that I started playing guitar, fast paced riffs is what it's all about.

tgpo 03-24-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xEMGx (Post 840835)
Plus, the logo is badass.

Yea, that logo they stole from an old comic book and pasted on bedroom slippers, shot glasses, and converse all stars really defined them as a band.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-24-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xEMGx (Post 840835)
They are influential, they created a new punk genre. They revolutionized punk.

Mixing fast paced rock n roll/Punk with 50s B-movie imagery?

I think The Cramps beat them there.
In fact The Damned were doing it as well.

SBWNik 03-27-2010 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xEMGx (Post 840835)
They are influential, they created a new punk genre. They revolutionized punk. Plus, the logo is badass. Being a Misfits fan, they are the reason that I started playing guitar, fast paced riffs is what it's all about.


ROFL.

The Misfits took an awful lot from UK Psychobilly band Demented Are Go, both visually and aurally. The whole schlock-horror image originated with R&B legend Screaming Jay Hawkins in the 50s, followed by UK R&R'er Screaming Lord Sutch in the 60s and eventually by The Cramps in the 70s. These in turn gave us (Via a somewhat circular route) in 1982 Demented Are Go.

Before you slate me for that, go look DAG up. You'll be surprised.

SBWNik 03-27-2010 11:53 PM

Ooops..... I've just done some research AFTER posting. Never a good idea to do it that way, I should know better....

I'm going to hold my hand up here, I'd not realised how long The Misfits have been around, only having come across them in the late 80s.

My apologies, ignore that last post. I'll shut up now :D


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