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hip hop bunny hop 02-24-2010 02:49 PM

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Seeing as though aryans are people with light skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes, what doesn't give them the right to be angry? They are associated with Hitler's perfect army and although I do not have Aryan coloring, I could see how this association would piss me off. Angry that your ancestors were retarded. Angry that millions of people died without a good reason. Angry with the violence and hate associated with your heritage. The idea of that is very punk.
Angry that bleeding hearts ignore the cultural and technological advancements which daily improve the life of billions?

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The fact that you're probably not a Nazi and you listen to Nazi punk because ...I listened to a few Angry Aryan songs and the lyrics are all about how black people are savages.
Angry Aryans aren't NAZIs. On the album they're clearly pictured wearing shirts emblazoned with the Creativity Movement (formerly World Church of the Creator).... aside from the unusual viewpoint on Jews, the group's views on race aren't all that unusual. If you feel like an Oprah Bookclub selection, read the Poisonwood Bible - a similar theological argument is explained in brief in that book.

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Why you think this is better then Crass absolutely perplexes me.
The Angry Aryans demonstrate a reasonable amount of proficiency with their instruments. Crass most certainly do not.

The lyrics don't both me because, while I'm not a racist, I am decidedly against Liberalism.

TumorAttitude 02-24-2010 02:53 PM

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driving through the city, blackened ghetto is all you see
direct result of permitting the ******s to run free
they destroy their own community and shoot each other down
abandoned homes are torched to ashes
inner zulu tribal clashes

browntown burning down
cities getting sacked, it's coming down
browntown burning down
negro in flames rolling on the ground
no longer welcome in our cities 'cause you'll get beat
extreme white racial violence!
Is what the darkies can expect to meet
this is acceptable and culturally advanced music??!?!!!

asshat 02-25-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TumorAttitude (Post 830670)
this is acceptable and culturally advanced music??!?!!!

That was an example of why hip hop bunnies argument is retarded.

...the music insults and degrades people, and people get offended..no sh*t...but then he calls people close-minded sheep for being offended.

..That offensiveness overides any musical proficiency they might have or how prettily they put their words together. It would be the same as a really talented cellist calling your mother a whore while performing.

t3hplatyz0rz 02-25-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by asshat (Post 830940)
..That offensiveness overides any musical proficiency they might have or how prettily they put their words together. It would be the same as a really talented cellist calling your mother a whore while performing.

Actually, I think that just screaming out "YOUR MOM IS A WHORE" in the middle of an otherwise peaceful piece would be epic win.
But I see nothing that indicates that the Angry Aryans are satirical, and therefore they're lyrics are apparently ****.

I also don't think that they're a very good band. I absolutely hate their singing. They're other musicians aren't half bad. They're songwriting is pretty generic stuff though, haven't seen anything really interesting so far in the songs I've been watching as I've been writing this. Decent breakdown at the end of "Advocation of Violence". "Still Just a ******" just plain old sucks. "Extinction is Forever" is probably the most interesting of their songs I've heard so far.
But that is not enough to make up for their lyrics.

YouTube - Right.org Contest:"No More Bailouts" performed by the ... is an example of a much more intelligent and musically interesting right-wing punk voice, although I still disagree with it's message.
Just to tell you... it's not all that punk. Maybe more like Greenday stuff.

hip hop bunny hop 02-25-2010 02:11 PM

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...the music insults and degrades people, and people get offended..no sh*t...but then he calls people close-minded sheep for being offended.
Well, to clarify, I don't think anybody who is White has a legitimate reason to get upset over a band being racist.

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..That offensiveness overides any musical proficiency they might have or how prettily they put their words together. It would be the same as a really talented cellist calling your mother a whore while performing.
It's more like a really talented cellist calling someone else's mother a whore. It's not my mom, it's not my friends mom, so I don't care.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-25-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 831000)
Well, to clarify, I don't think anybody who is White has a legitimate reason to get upset over a band being racist.

Even if it insults my own family?

duga 02-25-2010 03:37 PM

I find it mildly amusing that this band is still being defended.

I can't stop them from making it, but this is one band I sure as hell would be majorly pissed off about if I was a father and caught my kid listening to it.

This kind of music makes your everyday white racist look even more dumb than they are.

asshat 02-25-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 831000)
Well, to clarify, I don't think anybody who is White has a legitimate reason to get upset over a band being racist.
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I know a lot of non-white people and I don't harbor that kind of animosity towards them, and I think anyone that does is an a*s hole...I think that's a legitimate reason.

Engine 02-25-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 831001)
Even if it insults my own family?

The Hip Hop Bunny already answered this question: No, he does not give a fuck about your family. He only cares about his own family. Actually that's an assumption. His own family may have turned him into a violent xenophobe in the first place. Maybe he hates them for it and that's why he likes to stomp on hippies. Who knows? All I can say is that unless I see the Hip Hop Bunny or his friends stomping on hippies simply because hippies endorse liberalism (in which case the Bunny and Co. would become the stompees rather than the stompers) I will ignore him.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-26-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asshat (Post 830940)

..That offensiveness overides any musical proficiency they might have or how prettily they put their words together. It would be the same as a really talented cellist calling your mother a whore while performing.

To be honest I think you're letting him get off with that analogy because it's not the same thing at all.
Try this for size....

Imagine a talented cellist playing a gig to a bunch of pissed up thugs spoiling for a fight where he continually incites hatred & violence to his mother for no other reason that because of who she is and because she was born that way.
And said mother just happens to be across the street outside the gig minding her own business unaware that at kicking out time at the venue she'll probably be subjected to hatred & violence due to the pissed up hoards leaving the gig.

There's the truth of your analogy.


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