What is Punk?
 

Iv'e been hearing a lot of different thigs lately about what punk is.

A friend of mine told me that when punk was getting its start, they were all about the money... just saying F*** You all the while.

He also said that now-a-day (major) modern punk is all about the money, and they are kinda whimpy....


I think if theres no attidtude and jumping around moshing kinda stuff... get outta here with yo punk wanna be self's.

what do you all think?

punk is... dead.

if you need to ask you'll never know.

No way punk is dead!

I saw Rage Against the Machine at coachella '07.. and it was the most insane punk (ish) show ever. moshin like caaaraaazyay and whack jobs bouncning off everything in sight.

but i have found that the best punk shows ive seen have been by unsigned bands cause the shows are fun.. action packed and its just the good old fashioned punk attitude of fun and energy!

Oh noes...a punk debate thread. This can't go well.

And did you really just bring up RATM in an effort to back up your claim that punk is not dead?

For the record I agree though, punk is not dead. It's only evolved like every other movement/genre.

It's whatever you want it to be and it's alive and well.

this is precisely why punk is dead.

ok. i don't want to get into this debate, but would honestly just like to know what you think. i say punk is dead because although i agree that it is about fun and energy, it seems in my mind that the dawn of punk, at least the appeal it had, was based on the philosophy of creating revolution. it was about people that were in pain as a result of the state of the world, and those people coming together through music to spread awareness or at least provide a subjective commentary on the issues at hand.

i don't think punk should be dead though. i think it's in dire need of a resurrection. at least the dissident mindset anyway. now it's fashion. now it's a certain drumbeat.

and zach de la rocha? he's as punk as they come these days if you ask me. he understands that punk doesn't sound like anything, but you can put sounds underneath it and without even acknowledging it as punk, it undeniably just is.

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here's another one for the bin.

can't let the bin be all you all the time now can i?

@zevokes - i think we're on the same page but on different lines, either way i'll elaborate when i get back from work.