Punk, surprisingly enough, as I love the aesthetic appeal (super irony, post modern/meta commentary, mohawks), is not a genre i'm too familiar with, and don't often go to except in the most significant of cases, like going back to the classics we're name dropping (Ramones, Clash, Heads, Minutemen) or coming across one who revives traditional forms with great conviction (like Iceage or Trash Talk). But, as I said, what especially drives Punk home for me is a lot of the aesthetic, or the attitude. I'm content with the few bands I know, they seem to do the genre best.

But I can definitely see it becoming stagnant when you hand around the sound too long- I get the same feeling if I listen to the of Blues too long. And while it is kind of sadly ironic that a genre focused on nonconformity should find such a uniform sound, but at the same time, it's also a genre that lashed out against genres like metal and Prog, showing a distaste not only for virtuoso playing but constant development or grand ideas as well.

Besides, just the fact that they brought about some of the greatest bands with some of the best songwriting abilities imaginable (a world without the Heads or Minutemen would not be worth living in) is enough for me to be happy. As a style, at its roots and in great multitude, maybe it is a little grating and unoriginal. Punk was not only a music form, though, but a subculture, and perhaps it prevailed more in that respect.

This was always what peeved me about it. Still a fanbase with groupthink tendencies and narrow minded outlook. How "punk" can you be when you all wear identical accessories?

I guess it's the same for across all genres, though they don't seem peddle this notion of independence to such an extreme.

I think hip hop and country can give punk a run for its money in that department.

Switch it with "non-conformity".

Hip Hop/Country are more invested in cultural roots.

I think we're generalizing a bit here. There is fashion accessories for every music genre.

Sure. I'd argue that the "quintessential" punk look has remained virtually intact for decades now, whilst hip hop has switched from baggy jeans to skinny (not without quite a deal of controversy).

Not every genre is about "being different".

Most youth-oriented genres are though, like punk and hip hop.

Emo/Screamo
Goth
Scene

"Scene"?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...TKGetfrqdEOHkA

I'm not making this up. :rofl: I understand its not exactly a genre but it was too good to avoid.