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Newkie 03-15-2013 12:01 PM

You shoulda stuck to your guns William! Although I would say they should have been higher, I always get the feeling I never "got" Bad Brains. Can't fault their influence or impact, I just never liked them that massively.

FRED HALE SR. 03-15-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1297592)
Note on Bad Brains

Allright ask and you shall receive, I had a feeling that I dropped the ball on this one,
so I will move them up the ladder, I'm not sure where yet, but they won't show up for a bit.

I'm still not sold on the first album, it's more their reggae that I'm interested in reviewing. There are two other reggae interludes on here, so I need to sit down and review it.

Finally, I don't like taking notes on race, but they are an afro punk band that throws their own cultural sound into the mix. I've already noted I'm not a fan of fusion, but I'll give em another go, though their is a much better band of brothers on this list.

Ok from here on out the list gets pretty competitive, so don't take to much offence when you see a legendary bands pass by. There all good at this point.

I don't take offense to any of the choices, I just occassionally disagree with assessments. Its been very enjoyable and a learning experience so kudos to a well crafted and thoughtful thread.

I'm not much into melodic hardcore but I did enjoy Death by Stereo when they opened for the Aquabats a few years back.

William_the_Bloody 03-16-2013 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Newkie (Post 1297701)
You shoulda stuck to your guns William! Although I would say they should have been higher, I always get the feeling I never "got" Bad Brains. Can't fault their influence or impact, I just never liked them that massively.

Well this was always meant to be a democratic thread. It doesn't bother me to reassess a band if enough people make a clamour, however I will be less likely to do that now, only because every band left is pretty damn good.

As for Bad Brains, I will primarily be reviewing their latter day reggae/dub work. I know this is a hardcore thread, but I like to take into account a bands whole repertoire

William_the_Bloody 03-16-2013 11:53 PM

47. D.R.I. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/Thrashcore) Texas USA era, 80's &

Reagan Youth Genre (Punk Rock/NYHC) New York USA, era 80's

My apologies on the delay, I got waylaid by powers beyond my control. Anyways...

Not many bands can claim to be the godfathers of a musical genre let alone two, but DRI did just that, spearheading thrashcore during their early career & then pioneering crossover thrash with the legendary album the Crossover.

I confess I've never really been a big DRI fan, but I defiantly respect what they did.

Suit and tie guy



Tear it Down



No sense



Reagan Youth

A lot of punk rock from the 1980's was oppossed to Ronald Reagan's republican policies, so hence the mock name Reagan Youth.

Reagan Youth



Degenerated



Anytown


Janszoon 03-17-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1298067)
47. D.R.I. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/Thrashcore) Texas USA era, 80's

My apologies on the delay, I got waylaid by powers beyond my control. Anyways...

Not many bands can claim to be the godfathers of a musical genre let alone two, but DRI did just that, spearheading thrashcore during their early career & then pioneering crossover thrash with the legendary album the Crossover.

I confess I've never really been a big DRI fan, but I defiantly respect what they did.

I like DRI, but I have to admit Kurt Brecht is the real weak link for me. He's a terrible vocalist and has written some of the most embarrassingly bad lyrics I've ever heard in my life. Aside from that they're good though. I just wish they would have tossed his ass for someone better thirty years ago.

William_the_Bloody 03-17-2013 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1298069)
I like DRI, but I have to admit Kurt Brecht is the real weak link for me. He's a terrible vocalist and has written some of the most embarrassingly bad lyrics I've ever heard in my life. Aside from that they're good though. I just wish they would have tossed his ass for someone better thirty years ago.

Ditto, you nailed it on the head, that's why I'm not a big Municipal Waste fan either, their vocalist sounds DRI inspired.

William_the_Bloody 03-17-2013 10:35 AM

46. Disrupt ,Genre (Crust Punk) Massachusetts USA era, 90's &

Nausea Genre (Crust Punk) New York USA, era 80's 90's

By the late 80's early 90's the influence of British crust began to wash up on the eastern seaboard of the United States. Here is one the pioneers of American crust punk & my personal favourites of that era, even if their best effort was a Conflict song.

From Protest To Resistance



A LIFE'S A LIFE



Religion is a Fraud



Nausea

The other big US crust band popular during the early 90's, I'm sure there are others.

Cybergod



Clutches


William_the_Bloody 03-17-2013 09:20 PM

45. Pennywise ,Genre (Melodic Hardcore) California USA era, 90's present

Unsane Genre (Post Hardcore) New York, USA, era, 90's/Present

One of the big heavyweights of melodic hardcore. I really like Pennywise, they have some great songs, but like a lot of melodic hardcore bands, they also tend to have a lot of songs that sound a little generically similar to one another.

**** Authority



Society



Bro hymn




Unsane

So I was originally going to pair Pennywise up with a second tier melodic hardcore band like say Down By Law, which I might still add, but Post Hardcore was such a BIG part of the 90's, I'm trying to add more, and in the process I'm developing a new found appreciation for it...it's a work in progress.

Alleged



Against the Grain



Scrape


Newkie 03-18-2013 07:10 AM

Woo, Pennywise, woo. They always remind me of my pathetic attempts to skateboard but I still have time for them. I agree that a lot of their songs are just "plain" and it could lead you listening to a whole album and struggling to identify more than 3/4 songs from one album, and in a sense they remind me of Bad Religion. Still going, and Reason to Belive from a few years back was steady enough, but I don't expect anything more from them now.

Bro Hymn though, still love that one.

William_the_Bloody 03-18-2013 10:01 PM

44. S.O.D. ,Genre (Crossover thrash/NYHC) New York USA era, 80's &

Stars & Stripes, Genre (Oi!/Punk Rock) Massachusettes USA era 80's

S.O.D.:

A side project featuring members of Anthrax and Billy Milano. The original album is now considered one of the top grossing underground records of all time, and of course, one of the most controversial for its rather...how shall I say...strong approach to cultural assimilation. Anyways I do think there is something a little darker going on in the song SEOD than fans would like to admit, but I can't deny that the album itself is musically brilliant, so... I'll leave it at that.

Kill Yourself



Speak English or Die



What's That Noise?



Stars & Stripes

Moving things around as I thought this would be a good place for this band, as they are both somewhat right wing & military themed, though the former is a parody in bad taste, while the latter is more positive. They also sadly feature lead singers who are pebbleheads, though the latter is less so than the former. Both also have a cult following, originally releasing only one album each, and finally on musical merit alone....they are both really really good!

So Stars & Stripes, a patriotic sideproject started by the lead singer of Boston hardcore act Slapshot.

Shaved for battle



The Power and the Glory



No Where




Slapshot Genre (Hardcore) Massachusettes, era 80's/90's

what's at stake



Negative FX Genre (Hardcore) Massachusettes, era 80's

Mind Control



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