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Frownland 06-08-2017 10:49 AM

I genuinely wanted to put a TH copyright on it but I was lazy.

OccultHawk 06-08-2017 10:49 AM

I can easily understand how a person could conclude Joy Division is the most important band ever.

The Batlord 06-08-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1843875)
Not liking Joy Division is pretty whack

Liking Joy Division is for people with a testosterone deficiency.

The Batlord 06-08-2017 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1843878)
that explanation is even more whack

you might as well **** off from post punk altogther

I mean GoF is p sissy as well

GoF is not sissy. They got the gnarly riffs and mad hard rhythms. Joy Division should come with a razor blade. Even if you're too pansy to commit suicide then at least the suggestion has been planted.

Frownland 06-08-2017 03:06 PM

Nah they're pretty good, just overrated due to their influence. (Joy Division)

Plus, music for people pumped up on too much testosterone is probably, like, Limp Bizkit or something.

The Batlord 06-08-2017 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1843882)
Nah they're pretty good, just overrated due to their influence.

Plus, music for people pumped up on too much testosterone is probably, like, Limp Bizkit or something.

I'm not advocating an excess of testosterone, or else we'd all relate to Pantera on a fundamental level, just mocking wussbag indie twats who think being super sensitive is a product of being enlightened and not just a chemical imbalance.

Frownland 06-08-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1843884)
I'm not advocating an excess of testosterone, or else we'd all relate to Pantera on a fundamental level, just mocking wussbag indie twats who think being super sensitive is a product of being enlightened and not just a chemical imbalance.

Or maybe they just weren't fixing to be the next Slayer.

Oriphiel 06-08-2017 03:21 PM

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of Joy Division. I think I listened to a Peel session of theirs with Neapolitan in plug once, though, and it wasn't terrible. Good times.

OccultHawk 06-08-2017 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1843884)
I'm not advocating an excess of testosterone, or else we'd all relate to Pantera on a fundamental level, just mocking wussbag indie twats who think being super sensitive is a product of being enlightened and not just a chemical imbalance.

You're ability to make a pinpoint crack at Joy Division shows how well you understand them. Sometimes I'll be at work or at a bar or I'm existing in a time and place where I'm with another heterosexual man and I'll comment about a beautiful woman we both know. These comments are without exception juvenile and sexually objectifying.

Me: I sure would love to get the chance to have sex with female X.

Another man: She's not my type. She complains too much. She's stupid. (Whatever reason)

Me: What the **** does that have to do with her pussy?

In the same way, that's how incomprehensible your lack of love for Joy Division strikes me. I could get it if you don't get it. Like in the above example I could get it if my male friend were gay. I can think, "OK. He's not programmed to worship 20-something vaginas." But you're not Joy Division adverse. You understand what they are but still you don't collapse in awe. Instead, you come up with an excuse for not loving what must be loved.

Not being enlightened is a symptom of being chemically balanced.

You're not balanced. Bow before the greatness. The vagina is god and you know it.

The Batlord 06-08-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1843887)
JD has some fast pumping sharp guitar tracks as well

You might try listening first

GoF is feminist commie punk borrowing from girly disco at times

I Love a Man in Uniform

1. An Ideal for Living is pretty nice, so there.

2. I could give a **** about GoF's politics. They just come with the mad tunes and that's enough for me.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1843891)
for someone who rails against music as an identity (hipsters or whatever) he's like the biggest offender of it I swear

I rail against music subcultures as an identity. Listening to music that jibes with your sense of self and not listening to music that doesn't is whatever so long as you aren't dismissing music you actually like just because you don't like their mentality.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1843900)
You're ability to make a pinpoint crack at Joy Division shows how well you understand them. Sometimes I'll be at work or at a bar or I'm existing in a time and place where I'm with another heterosexual man and I'll comment about a beautiful woman we both know. These comments are without exception juvenile and sexually objectifying.

Me: I sure would love to get the chance to have sex with female X.

Another man: She's not my type. She complains too much. She's stupid. (Whatever reason)

Me: What the **** does that have to do with her pussy?

In the same way, that's how incomprehensible your lack of love for Joy Division strikes me. I could get it if you don't get it. Like in the above example I could get it if my male friend were gay. I can think, "OK. He's not programmed to worship 20-something vaginas." But you're not Joy Division adverse. You understand what they are but still you don't collapse in awe. Instead, you come up with an excuse for not loving what must be loved.

Not being enlightened is a symptom of being chemically balanced.

You're not balanced. Bow before the greatness. The vagina is god and you know it.

Yeah no I wouldn't give a **** if I didn't think Joy Division was boring in the first place. I'm actually kinda down with New Order, and "Blue Monday" is one of the fattest tracks ever, but Joy Division just leaves me in a stupor.

And so I find delight in mocking their fanbase.


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