Compare i want a mohawk and mom wont let me get one to silver and cold. I havn't heard a single emo band that sounds as bitchy as havok on early AFI records.

I don't really think I Wanna Mohawk is being sung from a personal standpoint, he does say "I may be ten years old..." I still can't decide if that song is meant to be taken seriously, but either way he's obviously not complaining about his own situation.

Did i say the lyrics were whiny?
i said "sounded as bitchy as havok"
His voice is extremely whiny on the old AFI records.

I agree his voice does sound extremely whiny. For some reason, unlike most other bands, it just doesn't bother me.

I love Nofx


right now,Green day(as always)

^ haha...GreenDay isnt punk

Try again

The clash are my favourite punk band

i love the sex pistols, although i agree with (I think it was misfits) when he said they were all about image, the clash and the ramones too, lets see....social distortion, and right now i've been listening to a lot of good riddance, ignite, cheap sex, pistol grip

Yes it was me.


and my favorite punk band if i havn't said before.
Is the Damned

WTF?how are they not punk?

Old green day is pop punk, everything after dookie was modern/pop rock.
Besides the guitarist from the buzzc0cks said it himself "i didn't know who they were, but i know they sure as hell weren't punk" or something like that.

I can't remember if I mentioned mine and I don't want to read through all of the pages but I am going to go with Against Me! for the moment and Mr. Ramone learn about your genres

The Clash but Op. Ivy an The Ramones are next!!!COLOR="Black"][/COLOR][/COLOR]

if you hate green day you need to burn in well you no where:bringit: :finger: :band: :yeah:

Ok,just so you know that I know my genres,i will post them. I just thought i could post my favorite bands within the punk genre(pop/punk,anarcho etc)

Pop/punk
green day
Screeching weasel
The ramones
The queers
MTX
The riverdales
The D-I-ckies

Hardcore
Black flag
misfits
DK
GBH
Circle jerks
Bad brains

ska
Operation ivy
less than jake
rancid(sorta)

original
Clash
ramones
sex pistols

Oi!/anarcho
expolited
discharge
subhumans
crass

ok,sorry for the mishap

Wow you consider less then jake ska? and the misfits hardcore?

what would you call Less than jake???

and yes,the misfits are kinda hardcore,what would you call them????its hard to place them

Horror/Classic Punk.
and LTJ is pop rock.
Hardly any of their songs are ska.
Some have horns thats about it.

hmmm,good point there man. and yeah,i didnt really qualify misfits horror/classic because i didnt make a thing for it(lol).thats just my opinion anyways

Quit trying to cover up your mistakes and looking like a fool. Just admit that you were wrong and take his words of wisdom and next time you post think about what you are going to say.

im not trying to do anything. I just said the misfits can qualify as hardcore

How can they qualify as something that hadn't started when they were in their prime? Again quit trying to agree with everyone and state your own damn opinion. Jesus Christ you are worse then most hypocritical church goers...

Early Less Than Jake is most definetely ska. Pezcore, anyone?

As for The Misfits, I think they're a hardcore punk band as well, they may have dealt with zombies or devils in every other song but that didn't really define their sound. They may have had some "classic punk" songs, but most of their songs have a more metal feel to them, which to me characterized hardcore.

The misfits didn't get started till around the 80s..
They had no guitar and keyboard in the 70s.

I am stating my pwn damn opinion..the misfits are hardcore. its my opinion,think what you want

PS:**** no i dont go to church

That should be a "own" and I never said that you went to church I just stated that you are behaving as some of the people that go to church. Read the entire post dumbass.

i did,i thought you ment i went to church

50 cent isnt bluegrass metal no matter who is listening to it. Genre isn't opinion. I'll agree there are some grey spots, but don't think you have ultimate control over what genre your favorite bands are.

im not saying i do,im just putting them as to where i think they go

Thats your problem, you think. Don't think it will help everyone forget you.

Genre is an opinion.
I can say i think "so and so" are metal.
You can dissagree.
and i can go on and on about it.
and think im right therefore them being metal to me.
Everything can pretty much be an opinion.
But opinions can be wrong.

yes,thats very true. maybe i was wrong,i guess so...you can say that..i can think whatever but maybe im wrong

You don't sort things by opinion. That would be dumb. Genre is not opinion, it is used for sorting. You are dumb.
Are you just trying to throw out whatever you can since you have nothing left to say on the Death Penalty thread? Because what you just said doesn't really fight against anything.

You didn't read what i said.
and i havn't checked the death penalty thread and either way i dont hold grudges.
(almost) Everything can be put down to an opinion, genres being one of them.

^ Genres are not very opinion based, and Opinions are something that grey stuff like genres and heart surguries.

Really think about it.
If i were to say green day were metal wouldn't that be my opinion on it?
It would be wrong, but my opinion none the less.

What didn't I read?

Thats good, I was just checking.

Right. But you said that an opinion could be wrong. Hence, not an opinion. That makes it either right or wrong. Not opinion. And no, not almost everything can be opinion. I can think of a lot of things.

No, that would be your ignorance.

An opinion can be wrong

A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof:

is the definition of it.
an Opinion can be wrong because all it is, is someones thought on things.
See what im getting at now?

Well. That definition is pretty ambiguous.
"but not substantiated by positive knowledge" only because a true opinion is something that can't ever be proved or disproved. The musicians who made the music were the ones who decided what kind of music they were. Their opinion is our fact. Once it reaches us its no longer up for discussion.

Um...green day reffered to american idiot as a "punk rock opera"....i refuse to call that album punk..its not even pop punk.