Wtf happened to hardcore vocals

[Dylstew]

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[Dylstew]

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[Stephen]

I'd have to agree with you on the vocals. Monotonous screaming does nothing for me. Usually a couple of songs into an album and it's like oh you're one of those bands.

[Janszoon]

I like both types of vocals. It's just two different moods to me.

[MicShazam]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Metal ruins all good things

I'm certainly starting to get tired of certain metal clichés. A quick way to turn me off any metal act these days is any sort of growled, screamed vocals.
I want actual singing to be back in vogue for the genre.

If bad vocals are a pariah in metal, it's even worse if it flows over the edges and into other genres too.

[Dylstew]

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[MicShazam]

Originally Posted by Dylstew

I love it when the growls and fry/falsechord screams are mixed with (raspy) singing and regular shouting, but not in the good cop bad cop way. Then I get the heaviness but also actually memorable vocals. Or at least id like the screams change around sometimes like in Gojira and everytime I die.

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I should probably make it clear that I like some bands that have metal growls/screeching/etc. It's just that these days, I find 99.99% of all band that do that to be very dull. Most vocalists do it so poorly that it gets old really damn fast!
Arkona, Nile, Dir En Grey... and maybe a few others on a good day. These are the only bands from which I accept and even enjoy that sort of vocal these days. I feel conflicted about Be´Lakor (Australian melodeath) because their music is so nice... while their cookie monster vocalist is just boring and even a bit silly to listen to. I kind of want to find music where I don't have to tune part of it out to enjoy it.

Masha (Arkona) and Kyo (Dir En Grey) are probably the only extreme vocalists that I really, truly respect and admire. Mike Patton dabbles in screams and other histrionics too on a very rare occasion and he gets a pass as well.

[Dylstew]

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[Frownland]

To me, saying you don't like when bands use "those screamed or growled vocals" is like saying you don't like bands when bands use those six string guitars. It's such a massive spectrum of styles that it's pretty ignorant to lump them all together like that.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I just much prefer shouting in the normal speaking voice to assuming a voice the whole time which is often p cheezeball

Exactly. Pretending that this small difference suddenly makes it not screaming is half the problem.