Punk Philosophy
 

so i'm getting involved in my local punk scene (Nardcore/SoCal). I've been going to shows for a few months and plan on performing sometime soon. I make guitar noise rock/ no-wave music and I'm curious to see how people will react. I have the punk mindset of "**** you im cranking my amp and playing my set and i dont care if it pisses you off", but is punk really like that these days? I'm starting to get the feeling that all punk (at least in my area) has a "pop punk philosophy" in the sense they strive for mainstream success with a very clean tone.
what do punks want to say with their music?
where is punk now?

Who cares? Do it anyways, that's real punk. With the kind of street punk philosophy your scene has, they'll probably think it's too pretentious, but there are people who like the simpler punk of RKL and the harshness of the Contortions simultaneously.

Play some bomb no wave in San Diego and I'll come see you. SD is pretty open to unique music if you can find the right venues to perform at.

Punk is 40 years old. There ain't nothing left to stick a penis in except a very decrepit corpse. She don't care. She's just happy to get ****ed.

Punk is a Horny Corpse would be a good bandname.

Yes sir.

Why don't you use it as an album title

PS Listen to Gnod

PPS Drugs are nice


PPPS Satan

Standing out from the crowd isn't necessarily a bad thing. Your audience might appreciate hearing something fresh more than hearing a band that sounds basically the same as all the other bands in the area. The most important thing is whatever style you choose to play you should play it well. Both for yourself and because if you do what you do well then eventually you will find people who are into it even if you're playing something really out there.

As for the deeper question of what punks want to say with their music these days...I'm not sure it can be answered really. Punk isn't (and shouldn't be!) something monolithic. No art form should be. I don't think the genre itself can really say anything; there's just whatever individual artists have chosen to say.

Also, I second the suggestion to use "Punk is a horny corpse" as a name.

It takes extreme brilliance to offer anything "fresh"

To recycle the trash you have to be great but to be fresh...

I just bull**** all the time and it comes out fresh. Do you play anything?

I am a musician but I am ****.

Your music is very good but it's not fresh. You're worth listening to which is very rare. But you're not breaking new ground. And if you were going to you already would have.

Screw subcultures and philosophy and saying something with music and whatnot.
Just play.

Have you listened to Lizard of Ox, Haus, or A Van Per Oven by Wolves in Sheepskin yet?

No.

I'll make a commitment to you that I will. Your music deserves fair consideration.

I've been very complimentary of your art so far but if there's better I'm open to it
Give me time.

Queens of Shiva is my best project imo. It's some Brötzmanny free jazz. Not the most innovative though.

i will use it for an album or track. thank you. im expecting the skate punks to view me as pretentious, but im curating a show with a line up of a bunch of local bands at our punk venue (which ironically is a building connected to a library). im going to play a little, but i really like the bands ive booked, so i hope people come for them.
if i come to SD, ill find a venue for sure. my grandma lives out there, so ill see her soon. i dig yr avatar

you got it, man! :band:

By fresh I meant within the context of a local scene (or even just a gig). It takes extreme brilliance to revolutionise music but it only takes a little bit of creativity to liven a show up.

Also, my band is like a messy, heavy version of skate punk and we've played gigs with noise rock bands before and everyone's enjoyed themselves. There are people with really broad tastes or who just want to get drunk and see some live music.

Isn't 'we don't care' the philosophy of punk?

Do you think you could put your music up on Spotify? Bandcamp is such an unpleasant medium.

You need some kind of bar code for it that I'm too broke (and lazy) to purchase, which I would have to do since they're all digital releases. Want me to send the albums to you?

I don't have a computer so I guess not. I'll just use Bandcamp. I'm still working my way through old time relijun that you recommended to me. You recommended some free jazz and I put that in the front of the line but I'm so back logged with playlists (and having access to so much music is a wonderful problem to have) it takes me forever to get around to things. But anyway, I know this might sound crazy but it will probably take me until some time in June to get around to listening to your records but I really did love that Jesus acoustic guitar one. Like I said earlier that's good stuff. That's why I would like to put it in my spotify playlists, then it would be in my normal rotation cycle.

This is a very tired and old discussion.

I like how that's the first post here in a week

A week old to be exact.

Ten days to be exact.

Thanks buddy

^ well, it felt like a week's time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I thought it was much older, but the thread I was thinking about was the one Tristan Geoff made back on 09/29/2015.
http://www.musicbanter.com/punk/8383...ou-thread.html

I just mean in general, not exclusively to mb. There was the poppy Ramones, political poppy clash n sex pistols, extremists like crass, artsy **** like television n talking heads. Punk never had a uniform philosophy and IMO its best to just stop the ****ing pretense and enjoy the music.

Ey, I made that my first day.

I remembered. I thought to myself bout time someone cool joined MB.

;)