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Dylstew 06-17-2017 03:56 PM

Wtf happened to hardcore vocals
 
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Dylstew 06-17-2017 05:26 PM

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Stephen 06-17-2017 05:31 PM

I'd have to agree with you on the vocals. Monotonous screaming does nothing for me. Usually a couple of songs into an album and it's like oh you're one of those bands.

Janszoon 06-17-2017 09:55 PM

I like both types of vocals. It's just two different moods to me.

MicShazam 06-18-2017 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1847375)
Metal ruins all good things

I'm certainly starting to get tired of certain metal clichés. A quick way to turn me off any metal act these days is any sort of growled, screamed vocals.
I want actual singing to be back in vogue for the genre.

If bad vocals are a pariah in metal, it's even worse if it flows over the edges and into other genres too.

Dylstew 06-18-2017 02:59 AM

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MicShazam 06-18-2017 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1847552)
I love it when the growls and fry/falsechord screams are mixed with (raspy) singing and regular shouting, but not in the good cop bad cop way. Then I get the heaviness but also actually memorable vocals. Or at least id like the screams change around sometimes like in Gojira and everytime I die.

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I should probably make it clear that I like some bands that have metal growls/screeching/etc. It's just that these days, I find 99.99% of all band that do that to be very dull. Most vocalists do it so poorly that it gets old really damn fast!
Arkona, Nile, Dir En Grey... and maybe a few others on a good day. These are the only bands from which I accept and even enjoy that sort of vocal these days. I feel conflicted about Be´Lakor (Australian melodeath) because their music is so nice... while their cookie monster vocalist is just boring and even a bit silly to listen to. I kind of want to find music where I don't have to tune part of it out to enjoy it.

Masha (Arkona) and Kyo (Dir En Grey) are probably the only extreme vocalists that I really, truly respect and admire. Mike Patton dabbles in screams and other histrionics too on a very rare occasion and he gets a pass as well.

Dylstew 06-18-2017 07:57 AM

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Frownland 06-18-2017 03:02 PM

To me, saying you don't like when bands use "those screamed or growled vocals" is like saying you don't like bands when bands use those six string guitars. It's such a massive spectrum of styles that it's pretty ignorant to lump them all together like that.

Frownland 06-18-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1847740)
I just much prefer shouting in the normal speaking voice to assuming a voice the whole time which is often p cheezeball

Exactly. Pretending that this small difference suddenly makes it not screaming is half the problem.

Frownland 06-18-2017 03:35 PM

Growls can be a cliche for sure, but they are most certainly not all created equal.

Dylstew 06-18-2017 05:58 PM

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 06-18-2017 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1847731)
To me, saying you don't like when bands use "those screamed or growled vocals" is like saying you don't like bands when bands use those six string guitars. It's such a massive spectrum of styles that it's pretty ignorant to lump them all together like that.

damn dawg i was just gonna post this

aw well

Dylstew 06-19-2017 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1847832)
damn dawg i was just gonna post this

aw well

That comment wasn't even accurate to what I said at all

GuD 06-19-2017 09:27 AM

Ronald Reagan stopped being the president.

Janszoon 06-19-2017 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GuD (Post 1847936)
Ronald Reagan stopped being the president.

:laughing:

Dylstew 06-19-2017 01:42 PM

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 06-19-2017 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1847863)
That comment wasn't even accurate to what I said at all

but your opinion is still wrong

Dylstew 06-19-2017 06:55 PM

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