If they hold value to you then that's fine, I never said that they shouldn't hold value to anyone - but they only hold social value to me, which is due in part to the marketing that I was discussing to begin with. Also, I don't think you've demonstrated how anything I said was based on misconception other than that you seem to think that because some obscure world music genre isn't marketed by record labels that it somehow disproves my argument.

You seem to define subgenres exclusively as marketing terms. That's very wrong. Glad to help mate.

I said that they're more or less just marketing terms, bruh. I know it's a subtle difference, but it's a big difference.

You're reducing subgenres to marketing terms, whatever.

Post-Chula.

Isn't that basically what Led Zeppelin, kings of the Chula Rock sub-genre, is? Just straight forward rock with no BS? I guess, they had their share of frills, especially from Led Zeppelin IV onward. Maybe not so much in the former spirit of every song being 3 minutes or less.

Led Zeppelin had plenty of BS.

jesus christ I'm falling behind. Only update that I can give is that I like what I heard of the first Pere Ubu album and the Birthday party.

Well, fwiw the last page or so is just Frown and I arguing over the merits of sub-genres. :laughing:

Glad you liked The Birthday Party - you'd probably like The Minutemen too, now that I think about it. Definitely check out the album Double Nickels On The Dime if you haven't yet, I think that's considered post-punk.

I prefer Post-Plunk.

I never knew I needed this in my life.

Blues songs. :laughing:

@Dillweed
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The Fall - Music Scene

idk what other thread to put this in but can i just say today i discovered that wire is actually the best band in existence

AOTW for me.

Bodega - Endless Scroll

"I am not a cinephile, motherfucker!"

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im young excuse me

You're like six months younger than elph.

2 years i think

ehh i’ve liked the basic acclaimed post punk bands for awhile i guess i just never really clicked with wire until this week

Elph it's sad if you did that.

ive listened to their first four albums, pretty rad stuff yea.

and **** you for doubting me, the fall have pretty much been in rotation since you showed up on the forum.

If elph didn't feel like the biggest post-punk snob he'd stop listening to it.

The guy with the hat from Jaws, don't let him down.

When's it okay to label myself a post-punk?

when you get rid of your kanye west avatar and start listening to music made before 1995

thanks mate

He'd love the 100% white demographic though.

:drummer::drummer::drummer:

Is post-punk when you give up on music cause youre terrible and actually get good at something?

Elph is post-punk. I'm so proud of him.

This is post punk. I figure you need the kindergarten introduction since you never listen to anything but hip hop.

@DWV

We're not all like this. Post-punk is cool but elph is still a tasteless ****head.

What about the only hip hop black guy? I assure you their taste is exactly as boring, except at least the white guy is generally an elitist who doesn't restrict themselves to mainstream and barely non-mainstream hip hop.

But I don't even listen to mainly hiphop.. if you ever plugged with me you'd know that. :(

^ come plug now

Bauhaus. I kinda wish I had listened to literally anything else in highschool but they're a prestigious band to the world of spooky people and sad sacks.

Swell Maps! Most of their music on YouTube is blocked for me, but that might be different in other countries. Anyway:

Yayyy a fellow fan!

If people are posting in this thread again, I may as well post some Killing Joke.

Talking Heads.

Oh and some Liquid Liquid.

Yeah that solo is hilarious, I really should get that album. Their music is hard to find somehow (at least in Holland), the other one had to be imported from god knows where

I like this a lot. Had heard about them but never checked them out yet