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ShOwTiM3 01-26-2006 04:35 PM

Big Will
 
Do you think that Will Smith is a great rapper (which is above the mass) or just rapper like any other ?

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 01-26-2006 04:38 PM

i think personally that he's overrated. not any better than any other rapper.

ShOwTiM3 01-26-2006 04:41 PM

It's my opinion too... personally I like him. But yes he is overrated. Maybe because he played in movies... dunno. But I really like Party Starter this song is awesome.

Hype8 01-26-2006 04:47 PM

I wouldn't say he's overrated, people underrate him all the time cause these kids think oh he's just another actor tryna become a rapper. But no, Will Smith was one of the pioneers of hip hop, was a freestyle champ back in the day. Wasn't a PE type rapper, wasn't a KRS but he and Jazzy Jeff stood for fun, mostly unadulterated hip hop. Now he's lost some skill but is still one of the great ones, especially compared to rappers kids these days think are good.

cas 01-26-2006 04:47 PM

Will Smith is a rapper?

Seriously???

missblueyes 01-26-2006 04:50 PM

i think he's talented, but kinda on the corney side. then again, he's always been a bit goofy really....it works for him and non the less i respect him. He's broken much ground in his time and has fun doing so.

The_Juke 01-26-2006 05:01 PM

I think he is a very talented man. He is not over rated; the Rap Community is over rated. Will Smith turned away from main stream rap and did it his way and it worked. No Guns, No Crime, No Cursing just good music with a catchy rime. All the rappers hate him for it but he still has everything they have and more. Fact is they are just jealous that he gets all the press that he does. They get plenty of press, to bad its usually in the form of a homicide news story. Oh and I want my OLD MTV back!

On our show we always wish happy birthdays. Rappers are congratulated for achieving/approaching middle age with out getting shot.

ShOwTiM3 01-26-2006 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Juke
I think he is a very talented man. He is not over rated; the Rap Community is over rated. Will Smith turned away from main stream rap and did it his way and it worked. No Guns, No Crime, No Cursing just good music with a catchy rime. All the rappers hate him for it but he still has everything they have and more. Fact is they are just jealous that he gets all the press that he does. They get plenty of press, to bad its usually in the form of a homicide news story. Oh and I want my OLD MTV back!

On our show we always wish happy birthdays. Rappers are congratulated for achieving/approaching middle age with out getting shot.

You just highlight a good point. He's on of the last old school rapper. No Guns, No Crime, No Cursing... Not a member of the ''gangsta'' gimmick if I can tell that. He got also a good appearence outside of the stage.

anticipation 01-26-2006 06:26 PM

Word, back in the day, The Fresh Prince could really spit a dope rhyme. And Jazzy Jeff could lay a fly beat out too.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 01-26-2006 06:37 PM

i dont know. maybe i feel the way i do because of the slight bias that i am not into all that much rap. but i just dont see anything especially great about him that other rap artists dont have. if anyone feels like showing me what im missing out on, feel free to send me some songs over aim.

anticipation 01-26-2006 06:39 PM

he may be a punk ass bitch now, what with that *** single he put out, but thats just because he has become white. he lost his funk and he cant ever get it back.



but he was once good

babakeatwix 01-26-2006 06:42 PM

Nightmare on my Street is a pretty funny song. Back in the day I think he was just one of those rappers that chilled and made up cool songs. But now as he has aged he has changed his attitude.

The_Juke 01-26-2006 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny
he may be a punk ass bitch now, what with that *** single he put out, but thats just because he has become white. he lost his funk and he cant ever get it back.



but he was once good

You thinking of MJ

The_Juke 01-26-2006 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by babakeatwix
Nightmare on my Street is a pretty funny song. Back in the day I think he was just one of those rappers that chilled and made up cool songs. But now as he has aged he has changed his attitude.

All artist change with age...

Unless your ACDC.

anticipation 01-26-2006 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Juke
You thinking of MJ


who?

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 01-26-2006 06:51 PM

^michael jackson

babakeatwix 01-26-2006 07:13 PM

Try not to double post The Juke because I know, its hard to believe, but you can keep it all on one.

bungalow 01-26-2006 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PTS
i dont know. maybe i feel the way i do because of the slight bias that i am not into all that much rap. but i just dont see anything especially great about him that other rap artists dont have. if anyone feels like showing me what im missing out on, feel free to send me some songs over aim.


If you arent all into rap, then how can you say with confidence that Will is overrated. Obviously, if you are uneducated on the subject, then don't make assuptions. I think that Will is underrated. People always want to rag on him for being an actor, or for being in Fresh Prince, and then discreditid him as a rapper. He and DJ Jazzy Jeff helped bring rap into the mainstream. He is a wonderful rapper.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 01-26-2006 07:49 PM

^thats exactly why i admitted my bias. and i said that if anyone wants to help me explore rap, will smith specifically, i am more than willing to take a listen. i am open to pretty much anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe
i think personally that he's overrated.

and if youll notice, i said "i think personally"...which pretty much shows that i am not saying that this should be everyones opinion. ...maybe if someone were to send me something of his, my opinion might change. in fact it most likely would.

sleepy jack 01-26-2006 09:43 PM

I think hes an amazing rapper, he did quite a bit for rap and such. Plus hes my fav rapper. I don't really care for his recent material.

MURDER JUNKIE 01-26-2006 10:45 PM

not bad for a white guy


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