Oh I know, wasn't saying it wasn't pop music, just defining it for you.

oh, whups. My mistake

I didn't say that's what I was doing so more mine than yours.

"gangster" and underground is pretty much related...this thread is kinda pointless.....you need to explain more what you think each is

I provided a link for gangster and underground is pretty self-explanatory.

yeah, but they're still the same thing a majority of the time...

making this a pointless comparison :-/

To the unititiated: Gangsta rap is the music that promotes guns, violence and bad language. Hiding this under some nice commercial beats. Underground is an artist that is not on general flotation on mainstream TV and comments on issues that does'nt need a big arsed woman shaking her booty (no matter how enjoyable it looks!) to sell. This is NOT the reality, but it is the conception that most people outside of the genre get. Rock music gets the same narrow minded misconceptions.

well it kind of depends on what decade of "gangsta rap" your talking about

nowadays it's ****

however, in the early 80's to the late 90's it was the best it could ever been.

Okay, you did what I was asking Proggyman to do...explain what he thinks the two are , not throw links at me about what it is. I know what it is generally.

To me underground also promotes guns, violence, bad language and glorifies the ghetto. If you listen to most mixed tapes you'll find these same common themes that you think are strictly gangsta rap.

Well, i mean...

okay

here, look at immortal technique, underground. But everything he raps about is about going to prison and shooting his friends mom (its sincere, not bragging).

I mean, thats as gangsta as it gets isn't it? But he tours with "the underground' artists. I think what you see on tv is simply just pop music dress 'gangsta' (w/e that really means, who knows)

I mean you see good charlotte on tv advertising themselves as 'punk' but would you agree with that then? Its the same thing