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Witsh? 07-26-2008 04:17 PM

What the hell is the difference??
 
I can never say something's rap or hip-hop without saying it's "rap/ hip-hop." Becaaaause I still can't figure out what the difference is. Someone who knows a little more about this kinna music... tell meh.

I've just recently started allowing me to like anything "rap/ hip-hop"... when I was going through my emo stage I was determined to hate it all.

sleepy jack 07-26-2008 04:19 PM

I just say hip hop instead of rap because it sounds cooler.

Son of JayJamJah 07-26-2008 04:37 PM

rap is a type of music, hip-hop is a lifestyle.

This from a 50+ year old White Irish\English living in suburban America.

sleepy jack 07-26-2008 04:38 PM

And I have a Lil Wayne poster on the back of my door. Who are you going to trust?

Witsh? 07-26-2008 04:42 PM

But if you pronounce rap like "wrap" it sounds cooler than hip-hop...

And thanks so much. You folks are huge help. >.>

jackhammer 07-26-2008 06:43 PM

I think Hip Hop pertains to the music and Rap to the vocals. So-Beastie Boys:Hip Hop. Eminem: (c)Rap

lucifer_sam 07-27-2008 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Witsh? (Post 501262)
But if you pronounce rap like "wrap" it sounds cooler than hip-hop...

And thanks so much. You folks are huge help. >.>

HOW THE FUCK ELSE ARE YOU GONNA PRONOUNCE IT?

Unless you put an umlaut over the a...but then...that's illegal.

sweet_nothing 07-27-2008 02:32 AM

Hip Hop is more about beats that you can dance to and rap is more so about lyrics as jackhammer said

Piss Me Off 07-27-2008 10:41 AM

Rap is sort of style contained in Hip-Hop i guess, as you can have Hip-Hop that doesn't have rapping in it.

TROY148 07-27-2008 01:46 PM

jayjamjah is right, hip-hop is a lifestyle that includes: b-boying (breakdancing), MC-ing, and DJ-ing. It's the MC's that rap, but not everyone that raps is considered an MC by "true hiip-hoppers". The original purpose of an MC would be to add a humorous comments over a beat during block parties, etc... But then it developed into something bigger where now many say it is the job of an MC to educate and send a positive message rather than talk about hoes and cars and gold chains. Here's a decent video, I hope was helpful.

YouTube - "The Definition of Hip Hop" - Directed by Konee Rok

The Unfan 07-27-2008 02:03 PM

Hip-hop is the blanket genre (like rock or metal) and rap is a sub-genre (like rockabilly or speed metal). Other styles of hip-hop include turntablism, (new school) reggaeton, trip-hop, and low bap.

Son of JayJamJah 07-27-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TROY148 (Post 501393)
jayjamjah is right, hip-hop is a lifestyle that includes: b-boying (breakdancing), MC-ing, and DJ-ing. It's the MC's that rap, but not everyone that raps is considered an MC by "true hiip-hoppers". The original purpose of an MC would be to add a humorous comments over a beat during block parties, etc... But then it developed into something bigger where now many say it is the job of an MC to educate and send a positive message rather than talk about hoes and cars and gold chains. Here's a decent video, I hope was helpful.

YouTube - "The Definition of Hip Hop" - Directed by Konee Rok

This is the correct answer, and I like because it says I am right. I was not guessing I've read several interviews where emcees say as much.

jackhammer 07-27-2008 06:12 PM

The origins of Rapping are in Jamacian soundsystems but this is rarely recognised in America, which is a shame considering that they are the best at it these days.

Witsh? 07-27-2008 06:29 PM

Aaah. I get it now... I think. Sean Kingston and Fort Minor are both hip-hop, but Fort Minor is rap and Sean Kingston isn't. Eh?

BTW. Unless you're a hick, rap and wrap sound different. To say rap you make a face like an orangutan, to say wrap you make an "ooooh" face. Try it.

Son of JayJamJah 07-27-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Witsh? (Post 501471)
BTW. Unless you're a hick, rap and wrap sound different. To say rap you make a face like an orangutan, to say wrap you make an "ooooh" face. Try it.

What are you talking about? They are pronounced the exact same way. They are spelled the same way phonetically even.

WWWP 07-27-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Witsh? (Post 501471)
Aaah. I get it now... I think. Sean Kingston and Fort Minor are both hip-hop, but Fort Minor is rap and Sean Kingston isn't. Eh?

BTW. Unless you're a hick, rap and wrap sound different. To say rap you make a face like an orangutan, to say wrap you make an "ooooh" face. Try it.

???:crazy:

Witsh? 07-27-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 501478)
What are you talking about? They are pronounced the exact same way. They are spelled the same way phonetically even.


Yeah, in second grade. I dun know, maybe I'm just a freak. I pay attention to how I speak.

Lord, I think I'M starting to rap now O.O

Gates_of_Iscariot 07-27-2008 07:25 PM

you are in second grade? -_-

TROY148 07-28-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 501461)
The origins of Rapping are in Jamacian soundsystems but this is rarely recognised in America, which is a shame considering that they are the best at it these days.

You're half right, Jamaican radio personalities would talk over reggae instrumentals and the trend reached New York, where it evolved and turned into the art form it is today. So rapping does have its roots in Jamaica, but it was really the MC's in Newy York that shaped it. I guess you could say Jamaica was the quarry for the raw materials and the Americans were the artisans.

SD4LIFE 07-28-2008 03:09 PM

Rap is music, Hip Hop is life.

Thats how I see it.

(sin)TAX 09-10-2008 12:34 PM

Hip-Hop is the elements, and the elements are a lifestyle! Rap is a bastardization of one of the elements.

Dr_Rez 09-10-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 501255)
I just say hip hop instead of rap because it sounds cooler.

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so do i

(sin)TAX 09-10-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiffany631 (Post 516673)
I think Rap songs are hard. When I think of 50 cent I don't think hip hop artist I think Rap artist. When I think of Diddy I don't think rapper I think hip hop artist

what kind of crap is that? when you think of 50 Cent or Diddy the tterm hip-hop should not enter your brain! Diddy WAS cool when and only when he worked with Biggie.


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