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overdoser 09-26-2009 11:12 AM

Favorite DEAD rapper???
 
who is it??? you can put a list if you want, and if you can, explain how they died.

mines gotta be Mac Dre.
report says he died from getting shot in the neck,but he was driving and also crashed his van and was ejected from the vehicle. His passenger survived and ran to the nearest building but Mac Dre was dead before they got back. They thought some rapper put a hit on him,Fat Tone or Fat Tony or something,and they killed him in Vegas,Tupac style.

"I hearda starvin artists but this is ridiculous, they bitin my rhymes like red vine licorice" ;) :afro: :afro: :afro:

Thizz in peace

melindash 09-26-2009 02:29 PM

hmmm
 
mine's the cold ice crush killa! from puff,puff,pass

he's not really dead, but not really alive either.

86 Position 09-26-2009 03:05 PM

Big L
Poetic from Gravediggaz

Pun

overdoser 09-26-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 86 Position (Post 742875)
Big L
Poetic from Gravediggaz

Pun

Too Poetic is the best!

Jester 09-30-2009 05:26 PM

Charizma. He and Peanut Butter Wolf made an album in 1991 while he was 18, and he was shot and killed in 1993. The album was fully released in 2003. The beats slam in and out in simple perfection, almost comparable to DJ Premier, but the styles are different. Charizma has a very young, exciting, enthusiastic and maybe even authoritative voice and a bopping early 90's rapping style to fit.


FETCHER. 09-30-2009 06:33 PM

2pac or biggie!

Gone Sugaring 09-30-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 744829)
Charizma. He and Peanut Butter Wolf made an album in 1991 while he was 18, and he was shot and killed in 1993. The album was fully released in 2003. The beats slam in and out in simple perfection, almost comparable to DJ Premier, but the styles are different. Charizma has a very young, exciting, enthusiastic and maybe even authoritative voice and a bopping early 90's rapping style to fit.


I saw the title of the thread and the first name to pop into my head was Charizma. Big Shots is such a great album. Besides him, Ol' Dirty Bastard for sure.

overdoser 09-30-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gone Sugaring (Post 744942)
I saw the title of the thread and the first name to pop into my head was Charizma. Big Shots is such a great album. Besides him, Ol' Dirty Bastard for sure.

yeah they're both good!

Dirty 12-07-2010 02:38 AM

Well it has to be Biggie for me... One of the best rappers of all-time, just a rare combination of voice, flow, wordplay, and image.

BUT don't you people sleep on Big L.


Kirby 12-07-2010 10:37 PM

Big L.
Eyedea.
ODB

someonecompletelyrandom 12-07-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirby (Post 966847)
Big L.
Eyedea.
ODB

:(

storymilo 12-07-2010 10:40 PM

Probably ODB. I like Biggie a lot but haven't listened as much to him, so it's a pretty tentative choice.

And there's like, tons of shit I don't know.

Kirby 12-08-2010 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 966848)
:(

Yeah. It's still hard to believe it's true. :(

K-DUB 12-08-2010 11:36 AM

man 4 me its tupac just bcause he just made sh*t i could relate 2

ThePhanastasio 01-25-2011 03:22 AM

I'll take ODB and Eyedea on this one. Grew up listening to a lot of ODB and 2Pac from my dad, but much preferred ODB.

Eyedea...it just still makes me sad that he's gone. He was easily one of my top 5.

Howard the Duck 01-25-2011 04:12 AM

Ol' Dirty B*stard

the rest of my fave rappers are still alive and kicking

Hank The Drifter 01-26-2011 01:43 AM

Mine has to be Big L. He is my favorite rapper in general.

OccultHawk 01-26-2011 09:27 AM

Biggie was offed by the pork just like Tupac and Jam Master Jay.

DoctorSoft 01-26-2011 12:06 PM

Mine is easily Eyedea. I was so shocked when I found out. :(

Kristen01 01-26-2011 12:46 PM

Definitely 2pac. I dont really listen to rap that much, but i could tolerate his music.

RandyMarsh 01-29-2011 03:00 PM

To be honest most dead rappers are overrated (due to the fact that they're dead).

But the three I like the most are; Pun, Pac and Proof.

djchameleon 01-29-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyMarsh (Post 993880)
To be honest most dead rappers are overrated (due to the fact that they're dead).

But the three I like the most are; Pun, Pac and Proof.

they are overrated because they are dead? what? are you trying to say because they died that means their work while they were alive should just be disregarded because it wasn't that great anyways?

jackhammer 01-29-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 994008)
they are overrated because they are dead? what? are you trying to say because they died that means their work while they were alive should just be disregarded because it wasn't that great anyways?

No I think what he is trying to say is that when an artist dies, their music is put on a pedestal even if some artists are not that great but because they have passed away it would be sacrilege to dare criticise their music.

Or you could say that it takes someones passing away for the rest of the world to sit up and take notice of their music.

Engine 01-29-2011 07:00 PM

My favorite dead rapper is Subroc, MF Doom's dead brother who he formed KMD with.

http://img.maniadb.com/images/artist/161/161862.jpg

RandyMarsh 01-30-2011 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 994008)
they are overrated because they are dead? what? are you trying to say because they died that means their work while they were alive should just be disregarded because it wasn't that great anyways?

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 994094)
No I think what he is trying to say is that when an artist dies, their music is put on a pedestal even if some artists are not that great but because they have passed away it would be sacrilege to dare criticise their music.

what he said^

If 50cent was shot and killed right now he would be classed as a legend, when in truth, he sucks.

Look at Biggie, I mean he was a pretty good rapper for his time but nowhere near as good as people make out. I see people claiming he's one of the top 3 rappers that ever lived when the guy was simply a little better than the average. But obviously people are going to start moaning at me for this (only proving my point really).


It's the same with movies, Dark Knight was a damn good movie but it wouldn't have been so highly regarded if heath was still alive.

djchameleon 01-30-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyMarsh (Post 994326)
what he said^

If 50cent was shot and killed right now he would be classed as a legend, when in truth, he sucks.

Look at Biggie, I mean he was a pretty good rapper for his time but nowhere near as good as people make out. I see people claiming he's one of the top 3 rappers that ever lived when the guy was simply a little better than the average. But obviously people are going to start moaning at me for this (only proving my point really).


It's the same with movies, Dark Knight was a damn good movie but it wouldn't have been so highly regarded if heath was still alive.

you are right i'm about to start moaning at you but it doesn't prove your point, you picked a bad person to say that was just better than average. I could understand if you said someone like Big L but Biggie. You are dead wrong about that. I'd take Biggie anyday of Pac.

I don't agree with you on your movie example either. You should've used River Phoenix's last performance or something. The Dark Knight would have still be huge even if heath was alive. He was performance in it was top notch but he didn't carry the whole film on his own. Christopher Nolan should be given credit also and all of the other actors in the movie that had decent performances.

RandyMarsh 01-30-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 994384)
you are right i'm about to start moaning at you but it doesn't prove your point, you picked a bad person to say that was just better than average. I could understand if you said someone like Big L but Biggie. You are dead wrong about that. I'd take Biggie anyday of Pac.

I don't agree with you on your movie example either. You should've used River Phoenix's last performance or something. The Dark Knight would have still be huge even if heath was alive. He was performance in it was top notch but he didn't carry the whole film on his own. Christopher Nolan should be given credit also and all of the other actors in the movie that had decent performances.

Big L was far superior to biggie. Biggie was slightly above average at best. If had to choose between the two I'd say I personally prefer biggie (I liked his flow and delivery a lot more) but that doesn't change the fact that L was the better rapper.

Anyway as for the batman movie, it was probably one of the best movies of that year but people make it out to be the greatest movie of all time.

Look at elvis, pac, biggie, nirvana almost every celebrity that has died (especially those who were killed or commited suicide) has earned more money and seen more commercial success when they were dead than they ever did living.

djchameleon 01-30-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyMarsh (Post 994445)

Look at elvis, pac, biggie, nirvana almost every celebrity that has died (especially those who were killed or commited suicide) has earned more money and seen more commercial success when they were dead than they ever did living.

that doesn't make them overrated though, that just makes them an artist.

The same thing has happened to painters/composers for centuries. A painter's art work isn't worth much while he is alive but when he is dead the price of his work skyrockets.

Sparky 01-30-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 994103)
My favorite dead rapper is Subroc, MF Doom's dead brother who he formed KMD with.

http://img.maniadb.com/images/artist/161/161862.jpg

nice picture man.

RandyMarsh 01-30-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 994449)
that doesn't make them overrated though, that just makes them an artist.

The same thing has happened to painters/composers for centuries. A painter's art work isn't worth much while he is alive but when he is dead the price of his work skyrockets.

Yeah but people get carried away with the hype. Biggie was great but he died and now he's the greatest.

Same thing happened with tupac and pretty much every other dead rapper.

djchameleon 01-30-2011 09:36 PM

once they die they become G.O.A.T. I don't see what's wrong with that but I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Janszoon 01-30-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristen01 (Post 991872)
Definitely 2pac. I dont really listen to rap that much, but i could tolerate his music.

Haha, "he was tolerable", what a ringing endorsement!

RandyMarsh 01-31-2011 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 994687)
once they die they become G.O.A.T. I don't see what's wrong with that

You're putting them and their music on a pedestal simply because they are dead. What's right about that?

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

djchameleon 01-31-2011 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyMarsh (Post 994809)
You're putting them and their music on a pedestal simply because they are dead. What's right about that?

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

I was being a bit sarcastic with that statement, I don't truly believe they become greatness but some of the artists you listed before. I believe they were pretty great while they were alive also.

OccultHawk 01-31-2011 06:00 AM

Biggie set himself up with Ready to Die to be further immortalized upon his death. He knew he was going to be murdered and had the vision to use his death to compliment his art. That's like the kind of brilliance music historians like to pretend that Mozart had with Requiem.

djchameleon 01-31-2011 07:01 AM

Occult, you are definitely correct about that. Didn't Pac also feel like he was going to die soon also and had some tracks that talked about it.

OccultHawk 01-31-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 994960)
Occult, you are definitely correct about that. Didn't Pac also feel like he was going to die soon also and had some tracks that talked about it.

I never really got that into Tupac but I would say you could probably argue the whole Machiavelli thing was along those lines.

OccultHawk 01-31-2011 08:56 AM

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lol not trying to stereotype rap, but like every rapper has talked about getting killed.
That's a good point. Well taken. But if you name the rapper and his death I feel like I will be able to explain to you why what Biggie did was more profound.


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